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In reply to the discussion: I need to vent this. [View all]

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
12. Actually, I would like to respond, since I am the one causing so much trouble in GD.
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jan 2013

And I hope I'm doing it the "right way" and helping the cause, although I am unsure both of myself and whether or not the battle can even be won.

To the OP, I am so, so sorry for what you are going through, it sounds horrific.

I have posted numerous times that 2nd amendment rights of mentally ill people should be the same as for "normal" people unless they have been adjudicated in a court of law to be legally incompetent, or have been involuntarily committed, again under court order. That is the standard, and the law, in my state and many others, since it mirrors the federal standards.

I think it's really important to distinguish between people who are just mentally ill, and people who have been through the legal system and adjudicated as such, because for those of us who have never been involved with the courts in any way have the full spectrum of civil rights, unless or until they take them away from us.

I feel that it is very dangerous to take away any right without due process and equal protection, and to my eyes, it doesn't matter what the specific right in question is, it could be speech or privacy or anything, really. I find it ironic that I have taken the position of defending access to weapons by those not prohibited by court order. It's not because I believe any or all if us should or shouldn't, I think that really needs to be made on an individual basis. But, it makes my blood boil when "normals" tell me I have no right, even though I have no court orders against my name.

It's probably a stupid thing to do, I don't know. I,hope I haven't hurt our side.

If you think I should stop, or change my approach, I will defer to your opinions, because I want to be an advocate for positive change.

Thank you for your consideration.

I need to vent this. [View all] easttexaslefty Jan 2013 OP
I'm so sorry easttexaslefty. 2theleft Jan 2013 #1
Thanks honey. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #3
what 2theleft said, elleng Jan 2013 #2
Thank you. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #10
I'm so sorry for your terrible loss LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #4
Many many hugs back easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #11
I understand where you are coming from Tobin S. Jan 2013 #5
I understand it is the principle easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #15
So sorry for your loss libodem Jan 2013 #6
I am not trying to be dramatic here easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #16
I'm so sorry. polly7 Jan 2013 #7
Thanks. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #17
I am so sorry for what you have gone through. Still Blue in PDX Jan 2013 #8
(((hugs))) easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #9
Actually, I would like to respond, since I am the one causing so much trouble in GD. Denninmi Jan 2013 #12
Thank you for your thoughtful response easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #20
Say what you want Dennis. Tobin S. Jan 2013 #21
This is what I know. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #14
I agree. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #22
I'm sorry you've buried a child. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #23
Hey, I just read your other thread. Denninmi Jan 2013 #24
Thanks very much denninmi. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #25
Why would you possibly think you offended me. Denninmi Jan 2013 #26
Well, because generally easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #27
Eh, you're just fine. Denninmi Jan 2013 #28
You either. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #29
... Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #30
. fizzgig Jan 2013 #31
This was so hard to read. My heart breaks for you and prays you'll auntAgonist Jan 2013 #32
i have a couple of extremely troubled children. mopinko Jan 2013 #33
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