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23. My first known European American immigrant ancestor married an Algonquin lady in Quebec.
Tue Mar 21, 2023, 10:02 AM
Mar 2023

Last edited Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:44 PM - Edit history (3)

We don't know their names. We only know that he was from France and she was Algonquin. She was said to be sweet and perceptive. That was more than two centuries ago on my mother's side in her maternal line.

My second known European American immigrant married the daughter of this French/Algonquin couple. He was from England. We know his last name was Cooley, which I have since learned is Welsh. They met at a Methodist Camp Revival in Florida (we think maybe Florida, New York?), and they lived in Vermont. They were happy for many years, raising several children together, until she died in childbirth. He encouraged our family to keep speaking a little French in her honor (we still do, a little). He is said to have declared in his grief that she was a "real princess" (please do not misunderstand: calling a woman a "real princess" back then meant that she was so good a person that she would have deserved to be a real princess).

My father's side also has Native American ancestry. About 160 years ago, a man with mixed Irish/English ancestry immigrated to Texas, where he married a lady named Zoe Brant, said to be from the Mohawk tribe in Canada. She was said to be feisty and adventurous. Later, we found out that her father had fought with the Union Army to help free the slaves. Tragically, Zoe died within the first year of marriage, in the childbirth that produced my father's grandfather. The young father, in shock and totally ignorant about babies, accepted the offer of very kind family friends named the Johnsons. He left the baby with them and sent money to them periodically. and came to visit the child a few times. If you are related to these wonderful Johnsons who did this, I still bless them for their kindness.

we are a violent species. mopinko Mar 2023 #1
Yes, Putin is not really an exception historically Walleye Mar 2023 #3
Do you think it was at some point a necessity for survival? Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #13
When people get the upper hand they need to push other people around Walleye Mar 2023 #2
it's like w dogs- mopinko Mar 2023 #4
I agree with you on both points there Walleye Mar 2023 #6
well, evolutionary psychology posits mopinko Mar 2023 #12
I never thought of that. Nice. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #15
Evolutionary psychology debunked cbabe Mar 2023 #26
Great article! Thank you. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #30
good article. mopinko Mar 2023 #34
But is that changing? I'm thinking of the women at Abu Ghraib. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #10
yes it is. mopinko Mar 2023 #17
I'm trying to think if I, as a woman, would want to physically dominate people Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #5
I know, but as a rule we physically are superior to children and don't treat them badly Walleye Mar 2023 #7
True. For most of us. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #8
Oh yes that's what makes it so fascinating and so frustrating,a giant moral spectrum good to evil Walleye Mar 2023 #9
And there are backslides. I think we are in a backslide in the US now. That's what prompted the Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #11
i've given it some thought from time to time. lol mopinko Mar 2023 #21
Europe DID go through dreadful suffering for centuries in the middle ages. raging moderate Mar 2023 #14
Everything about European psychology does hark back to Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #16
And re-reading your post, just as violence goes from parent Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #22
Interesting question-I would say it comes from what some call man's original sin - the ego. c-rational Mar 2023 #18
What do you think were the insults to the ego that caused the "othering?" Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #32
Not so much an insult per se, rather just the existence of an ego which fools you into believing c-rational Mar 2023 #33
Fear modrepub Mar 2023 #19
Of what, do you think? I know with Native Americans Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #20
My first known European American immigrant ancestor married an Algonquin lady in Quebec. raging moderate Mar 2023 #23
Of Something Different modrepub Mar 2023 #24
Fear of being absorbed is definitely in there, and we are seeing that surging today. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #31
Conrad believed the origin and true nature of the heart of darkness could never be clearly Martin68 Mar 2023 #25
I did not know this. And he certainly made a study of it. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #27
Pretty simple orthoclad Mar 2023 #28
I see your point. I'm thinking of, for example, the Sierra Leone civil war or the Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #29
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