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In reply to the discussion: The Atlantic: The ACLU Declines to Defend Civil Rights [View all]mahatmakanejeeves
(61,437 posts)5. There's a lot of misunderstanding about what the proposed regulations say. Please see this:
Betsy DeVos set to bolster rights of accused in rewrite of sexual assault rules
By Laura Meckler
Reporter covering national education policy and trends, and the Education Department
November 14
....
The most significant change would guarantee the accused the right to cross-examine their accusers, though that would have to be conducted by advisers or attorneys for the people involved, rather than by the person accused of misconduct. If requested, the parties could be in separate rooms during the cross-examination, an administration official said. They said this was done to bolster the due-process rights of the accused while assuring that victims are not directly confronted by their assailants.
The Obama guidelines had strongly discouraged the use of direct cross-examination. The earlier DeVos draft allowed cross-examination but did not require schools to offer it as an option.
....
Laura Meckler is a national education writer covering national trends, federal policy and the Education Department. She came to The Washington Post from the Wall Street Journal, where her beats included presidential politics, the White House, health care, immigration and demographics. Follow https://twitter.com/laurameckler
By Laura Meckler
Reporter covering national education policy and trends, and the Education Department
November 14
....
The most significant change would guarantee the accused the right to cross-examine their accusers, though that would have to be conducted by advisers or attorneys for the people involved, rather than by the person accused of misconduct. If requested, the parties could be in separate rooms during the cross-examination, an administration official said. They said this was done to bolster the due-process rights of the accused while assuring that victims are not directly confronted by their assailants.
The Obama guidelines had strongly discouraged the use of direct cross-examination. The earlier DeVos draft allowed cross-examination but did not require schools to offer it as an option.
....
Laura Meckler is a national education writer covering national trends, federal policy and the Education Department. She came to The Washington Post from the Wall Street Journal, where her beats included presidential politics, the White House, health care, immigration and demographics. Follow https://twitter.com/laurameckler
Here's a pretty-much final draft of the proposed regulation:
https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/title-ix-nprm.pdf
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But they will defend the rights of Nazis to stampede through Charlottesville
Downtown Hound
Nov 2018
#1
Are you kidding me? This is Devos' attempt to dismantle protections for sexual assault victims
hlthe2b
Nov 2018
#2
I don't always agree witht the cases ACLU takes, but 1st amendment does require them to
hlthe2b
Nov 2018
#11
They're under an obligation to defend civil liberties, not terrorism or violence
Downtown Hound
Nov 2018
#12
They aren't defending the Charlottesville groups against anything but 1st amendment rights...
hlthe2b
Nov 2018
#16
Please, they are and were just using "free speech" as a cover for violence
Downtown Hound
Nov 2018
#17
ACLU IS NOT defending violence. As you say, any idiot can also see that the right of assembly was
hlthe2b
Nov 2018
#18
Using putlic impressions of fact even that we can all agree on, does not rise to the level of legal
hlthe2b
Nov 2018
#20
Because they are in business of defending civil rights IN COURT CHALLENGES. Do you not get that?
hlthe2b
Nov 2018
#22
Accusing me of spreading "horseshit" when I have been very polite trying to answer your concerns?
hlthe2b
Nov 2018
#24
There's a lot of misunderstanding about what the proposed regulations say. Please see this:
mahatmakanejeeves
Nov 2018
#5
I am fully aware as I have the actual text and I totally agree with ACLU, with whom I have had
hlthe2b
Nov 2018
#6