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IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 12:48 AM Oct 2013

Gun owning liberal and watching Baggars shoot at a range [View all]

I'm not going to lie. I own three - two 38 snubbies (1 SW 19 and 1 SW Centennial) and one 12-guage. The 12 and 19 are at my parent's home locked away and the Cent is in a combo lock box underneath the bed for home defense. Have taken the CCW course in my area, 12 hours, but have never concealed due to being uncomfortable doing so.

My son, age 3, has never been shown it, nor do I ever intend on showing him it. I don't even like having it all that much, however, our home has had two attempted break ins over the past 10 years, an alarm has been installed and the police when contacted, when those two attempted break ins occurred, seemed rather indifferent about both instances. So, I found myself in between a rock and a hard place.

Now, I know that gun ownership CAN - I didn't say is - but can be seen as taboo by fellow liberals. And, they do have the full right to see it as such. But, I am curious about what others do say about it in regards to food for thought and not a means to argue, flame or go all wingnut on.


To watching Baggars...

Ranges absolutely love the Baggar bunch. Most of them are either young guys or cranky old boomers where they act like their piece is a trophy. It's an object to shine ass and they use it like it too. Also, there are far more customers using the range now than there were ten or fifteen years ago, so you know they're loving it.

I also find ranges interesting in the sense of what Baggars are really talking about in real time - body language, their condescending attitudes and clearly rehearsed swaggering. Know thy enemy. The internet is far too limited, reduced to what you'd expect - slogans, regurgitated talking points, insults and that's about it.

My god, the paranoia of them is absolutely astounding. Posted in printed paper in various places on the walls is all from the wingnut sites I've never heard of or read about - stories and claims so insane, you'd swear it's from a different planet. None of the math adds up, no sources are listed, it's purely emotional fuel on steroids.

Now it comes to take my turn. I do fairly well. 2 or 3 out of five are on the 8 and 9 areas of the target. Then, I watch these Baggars with their DTOM and other wingnut shirts on take their turns. They move their pieces around like it's a child's toy, almost no care of where it may be pointed while handling and it's as if their peripheral vision is completely absent. One would think people with such paranoia of Obama, roving invisible gangs of hillbillies and minorities would be careful. No dice. It's a trophy and they are there to smack their units together with their fellow "treaders". People with experience do not do this sort of thing - they always have it pointed down and only raise to discharge.

After a few more turns, where the success rate is same each time, I decide to leave. I feel my skill is plenty. Then I get into the car, turn on the ignition and have this incredible sadness and worry. And it's fueled by the same question I've always had, but this time it's more intense. The question is, "What in the hell is WRONG with these people?"

I don't ever expect them to become democrats or liberals or anything like that - and I'd never ask of it or try to persuade any of them to consider it. But, this isn't the republican banter I've grown up around. Something's much different now and it's very disturbing. It's not just only when these folks listen to the Conservative Media Complex - they seem like making it a way of life is not good enough - they want it to consume them completely. Watching them carelessly handle their weapon was almost more than I could take.

I just don't get it.

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the Confederacy is rising.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #1
Well, it's got no other direction it can go... Scootaloo Oct 2013 #13
May not be rising.... Hulk Oct 2013 #16
These guys are an issue, or dang should be. Hoyt Oct 2013 #2
I hope that someone is keeping track of these guys mwrguy Oct 2013 #10
There is nothing wrong with responsible gun ownership pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #3
Good post. Does he carry concealed, is it a big safe pretty full, does he have kids? Hoyt Oct 2013 #15
Yes ( i have no idea where)I'm not certain, and kids grown up pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #22
Far too limited... IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #19
Ah gotcha. you'd think they get tired of it right? pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #23
Ike would say... DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #28
A great man and President* pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #35
I have noticed that too DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #36
I fully support your owning firearms. dballance Oct 2013 #4
Respect and fear exactly! pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #8
Don't wear your Obama shirt there NBachers Oct 2013 #5
Ya Cha Oct 2013 #6
I Love It when I wake up in the morning and Barack Obama is President pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #9
Have three of them IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #18
Don't wear an Obama shirt but do what I do... TlalocW Oct 2013 #21
I would! DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #31
I wore one to a gun show. safeinOhio Oct 2013 #33
i have no problem with safety conscious gun owners Warpy Oct 2013 #7
I think I'd find another range. See if you can find a private gun club in your area. Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #11
Agreed IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #25
You also might look on the web for state funded and operated ranges. Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #37
It's almost like the crowd in a sports bar. All talk and stats. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #12
What's wrong with them? Scootaloo Oct 2013 #14
It sounds like they are in search of something to believe in UCmeNdc Oct 2013 #17
I know, right? bobclark86 Oct 2013 #20
More details about the range location. IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #26
''I just don't get it.'' DeSwiss Oct 2013 #27
There's fear, and then there's rabid paranoid insanity. Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #30
That's what happens when is goes unchecked. n/t DeSwiss Oct 2013 #34
Those "Tacti-Cool" guys... are they at your range? agentS Oct 2013 #29
Ranges love the baggers because JoeyT Oct 2013 #32
Very true IkeRepublican Nov 2013 #38
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