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branford

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2. Look at the gun death rates by city and county, rather than statewide,
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:53 AM
Aug 2015

and the results are far more disturbing, and unfortunately raise very uncomfortable issues about race, class, urbanization, Democratic governance strategies, legislative priorities and approaches to crime, etc. I don't really know how one can truly and comprehensively adjust "for differences in states’ socio-demographic characteristics and economic conditions," but it seems that is little more than a disclaimer to handwave away inconvenient facts and data that don't support the author's views on guns. The article is an editorial masquerading as objective journalism.

http://www.citylab.com/politics/2013/01/gun-violence-us-cities-compared-deadliest-nations-world/4412/

[**A Google search readily reveals a politically devastating map comparing gun violence rates to district voting patterns in 2012. Since the map was unsurprisingly distributed on conservative new sources and Facebook, I have not included the links in this post. However, it does not change the reality that blue, largely urban and minority districts, largely urban suffer gun violence at much higher rates.]

The author similarly mentions the CDC study, but then fails to discuss it because it again doesn't support her viewpoint. She also chooses not to note that gun deaths, and all violent crime, are consistently falling all while the number of guns is steadily increasing, ownership and carry laws pervasively liberalizing (along with the expiration of the Clinton-era "assault weapons" ban), and the Obama DOJ's own research indicating that most current gun control strategies are ineffective.

Courtesy of the DOJ (BJS and NIJ) and Pew Research:

http://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fv9311.pdf

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1-kispbj31jpD1LvnFSDevryH2RmVvoLw1slOBZTe-suuy96Qq69nF9BhTmcw/edit

After accounting for differences in states’ socio-demographic characteristics and economic condition the band leader Aug 2015 #1
Look at the gun death rates by city and county, rather than statewide, branford Aug 2015 #2
Some very informative links TeddyR Aug 2015 #3
Also, check-out this chart comparing gun violence rates to district voting patterns in 2012. branford Aug 2015 #5
branford's bogus chart alert jimmy the one Aug 2015 #10
Speaking of bogus... beevul Aug 2015 #14
Inconvenient truths that can't be obscured via bafflegab are simply ignored friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #17
Per *your own source*, 9 of the 10 lowest crime states are pro gun: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #15
violent crime rates fell dramatically during AWB years jimmy the one Aug 2015 #12
Why doesn't the # of guns in the US correlate with violent crime rates? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #16
...the AWB years, when AR-15 and AK ownership TRIPLED. benEzra Aug 2015 #18
leaving out a lot jimmy the one Aug 2015 #20
Ignorance of Firearms Law, Exhibit A. benEzra Aug 2015 #22
Its a way of muddying the waters. beevul Aug 2015 #6
I note the 80 megaton air burst over Chicago. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #7
After "accounting for socio-demographic characteristics and economic conditions," branford Aug 2015 #8
Basically TeddyR Aug 2015 #9
big discrepancy in charts jimmy the one Aug 2015 #11
I'm so glad you asked. Adressed elsewhere in this thread momentarily. N/T beevul Aug 2015 #13
beevul's blunder, misleading us jimmy the one Aug 2015 #19
Theres no misleading on my part. beevul Aug 2015 #21
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #23
comparing a state with less than 800,000 people to a state with over 38 million people the band leader Aug 2015 #24
"Now what do you have to say, hotshot?" beevul Aug 2015 #26
Jury results beevul Aug 2015 #27
Sad, just sad discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #28
Well...this part is. beevul Aug 2015 #29
Gun laws and non-fatal injuries = Controllers are constantly shooting themselves in the foot. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #4
Repeat of poorly couched/described studies. Nt Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #25
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