Gun Control & RKBA

Last edited Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:41 PM - Edit history (1)

principle, ethics. That is what I am defending. Those are the values of true liberalism and being an ethical and decent human being. The principle applies to those you don't like as well as those who do. The rules apply to everyone, those you like, don't like, and those you are indifferent to. I hold those values very deeply, and quite priggish about.

In grade school, we learned about the founders. Out of the ones the teacher mentioned that day, I decided John Adams was the one I admired the most. Why? He did something unpopular or a greater principle. My opinion of Adams hasn't changed since since the fourth grade.
http://www.john-adams-heritage.com/boston-massacre-trials/

I'm indifferent to Zimmerman. You are free to think whatever you want about him. Just remember everything you read or heard were proven to be complete lies in open court with overwhelming evidence. Everything you believe came from an Orlando PR firm hired by a POS ambulance chaser to create a false narrative to make money from a wrongful death suit. Then money grubbing racists like Sharpton got in the act for his piece of the action and passed on stupid bloggers and dishonest assholes like Cenk Uyger and his crew of dim witted hipsters who copied and pasted the same bullshit without even bothering to look up the law or the facts for partisan gain. Think what you will, just remember the source. I saw all of the facts and evidence, including what the jury didn't see in different hearings. Like the legal blog Talk Left pointed out, the Florida legal system was hijacked by opportunists for personal profit. It wasn't justice for Trayvon, it was about making money and staying elected. You read blogs by people who can't find shit on a map. I have interests in Florida, especially Citrus County, I keep a good pulse on what is going on.

We agree about Florida Gun Supply owner. After a couple of ISIS wantabes murders some people, he smeared millions of people with the same broad brush (where else do we see a lot of that? Oh right, this very space.) and religious bigotry. Religious bigotry...............other than the religion in question, how is he different than many progressives? Do you call out bigotry wherever you see it? Misogyny? Racism? It is very easy to do it when the offender is someone who is the "other" and the target is one of your own. During the last election, progressive anti Mormon bigots came out of the woodwork. Mike Papantonio, Lawrence O'Donnell, and Thom Hartman all jumped on that bandwagon. The very same people who attacked Glen Beck for his equally bizarre anti Muslim rants.
Were you disgusted when Martin Bashier said on MSNBC that someone should shit in Palin's mouth?
The different anti Mormon rants mentioned above?
How about John Stewart's racist impression of Herman Cain?
I found them all disgusting, bigoted, and offensive. The fact that they happen to support support the same political party that I do is irrelevant. The fact that I disagree politically with the targets is also irrelevant. The principle still applies, certain things are always wrong, no exceptions. If you disagree with that, and were clapping like an unthinking trained seal because the targets were people you don't like or agree with, then you have no business lecturing or judging me or anyone else on what a liberal is or should think.

A few years ago, I had a similar conversation with another DU member who accused me of defending a white racist because I said an FBI agent should have been fired and thrown to Idaho prosecutors for machine gunning a fleeing unarmed 14 year old on his property. His attitude was that it was OK since he didn't like the politics of the kid's father. You might remember this conversion. When I read your reply on my phone, it reminded me of that conversion. Justice for people you like, injustice for those you don't. That isn't liberal, nor is that American. I also don't like dogma.

On edit, perfect song for the occasion