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beevul

(12,194 posts)
14. Speaking of bogus...
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 12:56 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:31 PM - Edit history (2)

Highest Crime Per Capita (Disregard #1 DC for comparison, DC is a city not a state & only included to be all inclusive of violent crime nationally)
Note the top 6 are PRO GUN states, only Md is gun control, Delaware neutralish.
2.Tennessee: 643.6 .. 3.Nevada: 607.6 ... 4.Alaska: 603.2
5.New Mexico: 559.1 ... 6.South Carolina: 558.8 ... 7.Delaware: 547.4
8.Louisiana: 496.9 ... 9.Florida: 487.1 .... 10.Maryland: 476.8



How do your figures (I wont accuse you of using facts) square with the following map?





I'll tell you. Nevada and Alaska and New Mexico make your list not because they have high amounts of violent crime, but because they have a small population. Disregard them from the list, as you'd have us do with DC, and New York Texas and California take their place. Disregarding the three low population states, Pro-gun TX with its higher pop makes the list, and NY and CA with their ridiculous gun control and higher populations make the list in spite of both.


That changes the picture a bit doesn't it Jimmy, when two of the three flagship gun control states make the top ten?

Well I'll be, if you make the change I suggest, the data starts to support that map I posted, and branfords assertions.

Lastly, speaking of concern on another thread, theres this:

There are 4x as many guns since 1960, so why isn't there 4x the rates of murder and violent crime?

You never did answer that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=173987


Here, I circled a certain section of my map:



Maybe you can tell us all why the encircled pro-gun states (none of which have strict gun control) don't have actual gun violence incidents in quite the same way the places outside the circle, many of which having strict gun control, do.


After accounting for differences in states’ socio-demographic characteristics and economic condition the band leader Aug 2015 #1
Look at the gun death rates by city and county, rather than statewide, branford Aug 2015 #2
Some very informative links TeddyR Aug 2015 #3
Also, check-out this chart comparing gun violence rates to district voting patterns in 2012. branford Aug 2015 #5
branford's bogus chart alert jimmy the one Aug 2015 #10
Speaking of bogus... beevul Aug 2015 #14
Inconvenient truths that can't be obscured via bafflegab are simply ignored friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #17
Per *your own source*, 9 of the 10 lowest crime states are pro gun: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #15
violent crime rates fell dramatically during AWB years jimmy the one Aug 2015 #12
Why doesn't the # of guns in the US correlate with violent crime rates? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #16
...the AWB years, when AR-15 and AK ownership TRIPLED. benEzra Aug 2015 #18
leaving out a lot jimmy the one Aug 2015 #20
Ignorance of Firearms Law, Exhibit A. benEzra Aug 2015 #22
Its a way of muddying the waters. beevul Aug 2015 #6
I note the 80 megaton air burst over Chicago. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #7
After "accounting for socio-demographic characteristics and economic conditions," branford Aug 2015 #8
Basically TeddyR Aug 2015 #9
big discrepancy in charts jimmy the one Aug 2015 #11
I'm so glad you asked. Adressed elsewhere in this thread momentarily. N/T beevul Aug 2015 #13
beevul's blunder, misleading us jimmy the one Aug 2015 #19
Theres no misleading on my part. beevul Aug 2015 #21
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #23
comparing a state with less than 800,000 people to a state with over 38 million people the band leader Aug 2015 #24
"Now what do you have to say, hotshot?" beevul Aug 2015 #26
Jury results beevul Aug 2015 #27
Sad, just sad discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #28
Well...this part is. beevul Aug 2015 #29
Gun laws and non-fatal injuries = Controllers are constantly shooting themselves in the foot. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #4
Repeat of poorly couched/described studies. Nt Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #25
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