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jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
23. spoon feeding
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 10:42 AM
Aug 2015

ammoland: .................... Bloomberg-funded Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund that spent $764,232.35 .. How much did ALL the pro-Second Amendment groups spend? Ready? It was a grand total of $88,000.

beevul asks: Why does Bloomberg have to spend nearly ten times as much in lobbying money as the pro-gun lobby, if this is what the voters wanted in the first place?

Do you need be spoonfed? Your question is specious & sophomoric. It wasn't that Bloomberg needed spend 10 times more than the gun lobby promoting private sale bg checks in Oregon, it was that the gun lobby realized it would be throwing away money on a likely defeat, so that it limited itself to a relatively minor financial involvement. Bloomberg set a limit for involvement - that the gun lobby opted out realizing it was a forlorn hope, does not imply Bloomberg intentionally outspent the gun lobby 10 to 1.

Everytown spent nearly $600,000 on the 2014 election — $450,000 in contributions to candidates and committees, and $110,000 on other grassroots efforts. Part of that was devoted to strengthening the Democratic majority in the state Senate, the key battleground. Democrats ended up expanding their majority by two seats to 18-12 in the Senate.
The {democrat} party holds a stronger majority in the House. Gov. John Kitzhaber, a Democrat, is a longtime supporter and is expected to sign the bill if it passes.


With solid majorities in the state house & senate & a democrat governor, why would the nra invest much to try to defeat the gun control proposal?

beevul: Why does Bloomberg have to spend nearly ten times as much in lobbying money as the pro-gun lobby, if this is what the voters wanted in the first place?

Do you need be spoonfed? voters wanted background checks in 2013 after newtown by nearly 90%, yet republicans in the senate defeated the measure by filibuster. Voters wanted bg checks 'in the first place' yet they didn't get them thanks to the republican senate.
Bloomberg wanted to ensure legislature awareness of WHAT the voters wanted, & voter awareness to keep up the pressure on state legislators, to make sure what happened in the US senate did not happen in Oregon.



The anti-gun outlook doesn't give a crap; it's elitist already... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #1
Wonder what he stands to gain from this? What is his ultimate goal. ileus Aug 2015 #2
Just took a look at online Ammo land mag. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #3
Your ignorance of the secondary source, and... beevul Aug 2015 #4
Other than gun issues safeinOhio Aug 2015 #5
If I post about those other things, feel free to call me out on them. beevul Aug 2015 #6
That is his politics, who cares. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #7
Bloomberg is many places besides the East Coast sarisataka Aug 2015 #11
Consult your nearest globe or map. beevul Aug 2015 #13
.fighting to keep a constitutional protected right isn't extreme. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #8
Define 'expanding'. beevul Aug 2015 #9
Cover the sale of all handguns safeinOhio Aug 2015 #10
Somehow, I doubt it would stop there. beevul Aug 2015 #12
I just ignored it when safeinOhio Aug 2015 #14
Thats nice, I ignore irrelevent lines of argument too, like yours. beevul Aug 2015 #15
My gun grabbing buddies? safeinOhio Aug 2015 #16
Wait...me stating the truth, means you struck a nerve? beevul Aug 2015 #17
I have a degree in psy safeinOhio Aug 2015 #18
Theres a difference between namecalling, and describing accurately, many gun control proponents... beevul Aug 2015 #19
LOUD & CLEAR, beevul is LYING jimmy the one Aug 2015 #20
You were alerted on by guess who using the usual passive aggressive alert distortions. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #22
built in bias jimmy the one Aug 2015 #25
Um, blueridge3210 Aug 2015 #26
Um Jimmy, sarisataka Aug 2015 #24
corroborate with a reputable source jimmy the one Aug 2015 #28
I am not twitter savvy sarisataka Aug 2015 #36
verified as bogus? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #37
I posted her resume sarisataka Aug 2015 #38
explain 'this' discrepancy jimmy the one Aug 2015 #30
You explain it. beevul Aug 2015 #31
defunct _by _you jimmy the one Aug 2015 #32
See this post. beevul Aug 2015 #33
shannon 'sez so' is an assertion jimmy the one Aug 2015 #34
Yes. It is. beevul Aug 2015 #35
preponderance of the evidence is for my pov jimmy the one Aug 2015 #39
No. Nonsense is for your POV, and indeed permeates it. beevul Aug 2015 #41
no real evidence whatsoever from beevul jimmy the one Aug 2015 #42
Says the defender of the dishonest antigun org funded by a racist fuckwad. beevul Aug 2015 #43
why is posting far right ideology allowed on DU? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #44
This is the wrong place for that post; you want 'Ask the Administrators', found at... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #45
thanks! for the helpful hint jimmy the one Aug 2015 #46
And thanks in return for *your* helpful hint! I altered the post title #47... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #48
In order to do that, you'd have to lie about me... beevul Aug 2015 #62
Shannon Watts helped to defeat Dems, why are you supporting her at DU? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #47
some democrats - begich & pryor jimmy the one Aug 2015 #49
Ahem. This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Gun Control Underground... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #50
height of arrogance jimmy the one Aug 2015 #52
Wow sarisataka Aug 2015 #51
refrain from stupidity please jimmy the one Aug 2015 #53
So what is your point sarisataka Aug 2015 #54
I voted for Ed Markey and Liz Warren, both quite vocal gun control supporters friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #56
more like a kiss of death jimmy the one Sep 2015 #63
Evidence sarisataka Sep 2015 #64
antagonistic rating jimmy the one Sep 2015 #65
If voicing support for sarisataka Sep 2015 #66
funded by independence USA it seems jimmy the one Sep 2015 #68
If it helps you to sleep sarisataka Sep 2015 #69
If anything, it might help me - begich jimmy the one Sep 2015 #71
Democrats were trying sarisataka Sep 2015 #72
"MDA did not work...to get a republican elected" They worked to get Dems *un*-elected... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #70
"MDA did not work against pryor or begich to get a republican elected" Bullshit! friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #67
Refrain from defending people who work against Democrats, please friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #55
Watts did not get *anyone* pro-control elected in those races. Where's the win? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #57
Your're not supposed to notice that sarisataka Aug 2015 #58
Bloomberg won, alright- just not the win his credulous supporters think he wanted friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #59
B-1 sarisataka Aug 2015 #60
You'll call anything you don't agree with 'right wing ideology'. beevul Aug 2015 #61
"background checks on guy buyers. " beergood Sep 2015 #73
The NRA salutes you! Ammoland salutes you! Have you informed Ted Nugent of your brilliance? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #21
spoon feeding jimmy the one Aug 2015 #23
Both Bloomberg and Tom Steyer as billionaires made a difference in Oregon's election in 2014... cascadiance Aug 2015 #29
I helped a bit in passing that law. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #27
Thank you for... virginia mountainman Aug 2015 #40
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