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cascadiance

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29. Both Bloomberg and Tom Steyer as billionaires made a difference in Oregon's election in 2014...
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 12:29 PM
Aug 2015

I know that from folks who worked on the ground, who were at the last minute putting out a lot of campaign flyers, posters, etc. that were funded at the last minute by these folks that helped Chuck Riley and Sarah Gelser get seats for the Democrats to win a majority in the state senate, which before was pretty much even even with a majority when one Democrat was constantly voting with Republicans.

So yes, that and some races in the legislature helping the Democrats there helped perhaps push gun legislation in the state offices here, and also helped push for subsequent petitions for recalls of Riley and some other Democrats here by the gun lobbyists too. There's a big battle in this state for gun rights that I see happening around us. Don't forget that we had a mall shooting in Clackamas earlier in the week a few days before the Sandy Hook shooting that seems to get forgotten a lot when those two events happened right next to each other.

It's also important to note that Bloomberg ALSO tried heavily along with an oil billionaire tried to heavily finance getting open primaries passed through referendum in the same election too in 2014, which failed miserably here, after I think grass roots in all parties here started to realize that it was an attempt by billionaires to buy keeping and growing their influence over elections here.

http://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/237435-103417-two-billionaires-give-to-oregon-top-two-primary-effort

So campaign spending is a double edged sword. We can thank Bloomberg for a state majority of Democrats here growing, but we can also see by Bloomberg's own behavior on the Top Two primary referendum, that we really can't afford to be dependent on spending of billionaires who we get elected to our governments. We need to fix this system to take money OUT of politics, even if some billionaires will spend money the right way on certain causes, because it is just as likely and arguably more likely that more billionaires will spend money on the wrong causes and people in office too.

The anti-gun outlook doesn't give a crap; it's elitist already... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #1
Wonder what he stands to gain from this? What is his ultimate goal. ileus Aug 2015 #2
Just took a look at online Ammo land mag. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #3
Your ignorance of the secondary source, and... beevul Aug 2015 #4
Other than gun issues safeinOhio Aug 2015 #5
If I post about those other things, feel free to call me out on them. beevul Aug 2015 #6
That is his politics, who cares. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #7
Bloomberg is many places besides the East Coast sarisataka Aug 2015 #11
Consult your nearest globe or map. beevul Aug 2015 #13
.fighting to keep a constitutional protected right isn't extreme. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #8
Define 'expanding'. beevul Aug 2015 #9
Cover the sale of all handguns safeinOhio Aug 2015 #10
Somehow, I doubt it would stop there. beevul Aug 2015 #12
I just ignored it when safeinOhio Aug 2015 #14
Thats nice, I ignore irrelevent lines of argument too, like yours. beevul Aug 2015 #15
My gun grabbing buddies? safeinOhio Aug 2015 #16
Wait...me stating the truth, means you struck a nerve? beevul Aug 2015 #17
I have a degree in psy safeinOhio Aug 2015 #18
Theres a difference between namecalling, and describing accurately, many gun control proponents... beevul Aug 2015 #19
LOUD & CLEAR, beevul is LYING jimmy the one Aug 2015 #20
You were alerted on by guess who using the usual passive aggressive alert distortions. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #22
built in bias jimmy the one Aug 2015 #25
Um, blueridge3210 Aug 2015 #26
Um Jimmy, sarisataka Aug 2015 #24
corroborate with a reputable source jimmy the one Aug 2015 #28
I am not twitter savvy sarisataka Aug 2015 #36
verified as bogus? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #37
I posted her resume sarisataka Aug 2015 #38
explain 'this' discrepancy jimmy the one Aug 2015 #30
You explain it. beevul Aug 2015 #31
defunct _by _you jimmy the one Aug 2015 #32
See this post. beevul Aug 2015 #33
shannon 'sez so' is an assertion jimmy the one Aug 2015 #34
Yes. It is. beevul Aug 2015 #35
preponderance of the evidence is for my pov jimmy the one Aug 2015 #39
No. Nonsense is for your POV, and indeed permeates it. beevul Aug 2015 #41
no real evidence whatsoever from beevul jimmy the one Aug 2015 #42
Says the defender of the dishonest antigun org funded by a racist fuckwad. beevul Aug 2015 #43
why is posting far right ideology allowed on DU? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #44
This is the wrong place for that post; you want 'Ask the Administrators', found at... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #45
thanks! for the helpful hint jimmy the one Aug 2015 #46
And thanks in return for *your* helpful hint! I altered the post title #47... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #48
In order to do that, you'd have to lie about me... beevul Sep 2015 #62
Shannon Watts helped to defeat Dems, why are you supporting her at DU? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #47
some democrats - begich & pryor jimmy the one Aug 2015 #49
Ahem. This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Gun Control Underground... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #50
height of arrogance jimmy the one Aug 2015 #52
Wow sarisataka Aug 2015 #51
refrain from stupidity please jimmy the one Aug 2015 #53
So what is your point sarisataka Aug 2015 #54
I voted for Ed Markey and Liz Warren, both quite vocal gun control supporters friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #56
more like a kiss of death jimmy the one Sep 2015 #63
Evidence sarisataka Sep 2015 #64
antagonistic rating jimmy the one Sep 2015 #65
If voicing support for sarisataka Sep 2015 #66
funded by independence USA it seems jimmy the one Sep 2015 #68
If it helps you to sleep sarisataka Sep 2015 #69
If anything, it might help me - begich jimmy the one Sep 2015 #71
Democrats were trying sarisataka Sep 2015 #72
"MDA did not work...to get a republican elected" They worked to get Dems *un*-elected... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #70
"MDA did not work against pryor or begich to get a republican elected" Bullshit! friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #67
Refrain from defending people who work against Democrats, please friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #55
Watts did not get *anyone* pro-control elected in those races. Where's the win? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #57
Your're not supposed to notice that sarisataka Aug 2015 #58
Bloomberg won, alright- just not the win his credulous supporters think he wanted friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #59
B-1 sarisataka Aug 2015 #60
You'll call anything you don't agree with 'right wing ideology'. beevul Sep 2015 #61
"background checks on guy buyers. " beergood Sep 2015 #73
The NRA salutes you! Ammoland salutes you! Have you informed Ted Nugent of your brilliance? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #21
spoon feeding jimmy the one Aug 2015 #23
Both Bloomberg and Tom Steyer as billionaires made a difference in Oregon's election in 2014... cascadiance Aug 2015 #29
I helped a bit in passing that law. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #27
Thank you for... virginia mountainman Aug 2015 #40
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