Gun Control & RKBA

pablo_marmol

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82. Just now, from a Facebook discussion........

Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:28 PM

Aug 2015

"If guns were unavailable, no one could use them. For me, everything MUST start with that. Otherwise, it can only spiral upwards… more and more guns, more and more use. It just logic…"

Regular members of this group can probably deduce that I didn't let that statement go unchallenged. The beliefs reflected in this post are hardly rare, and demonstrate that......

A) Yes -- there ARE in fact plenty of people who would like to see guns "unavailable" and....

B) There are plenty of faux-progressives that embrace the verdict of empirical evidence when it supports their case, and revert to teachings from The School of Unicorns Dancing on Rainbows when it doesn't.

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"Nobody wants to take your guns..." [View all] beevul Aug 2014 OP

What exactly pisses people off the most about "taking away our guns"? DetlefK Aug 2014 #1

All of the above.. virginia mountainman Aug 2014 #3

Good questions Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #5

Yeah, the people are actually kids, and rights are actually privileges. beevul Aug 2014 #7

Well...I feel much better being treated like a child. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #9

Of course that is the logical thing to do Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #15

Learn to become a better parent. beevul Aug 2015 #54

WWFS? Straw Man Aug 2014 #10

I seriously doubt that gangbangers et al would be treated as an exception Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #16

Missed the point again. Straw Man Aug 2014 #19

Appears to be business as ususal. blueridge3210 Aug 2014 #21

I think it is you who misses the point. And the canard canard again. LOL! Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #26

So much wrong that I don't know where to begin. Straw Man Aug 2014 #29

Damn right I'm afraid of fire. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #32

Staggering misconceptions. Straw Man Aug 2014 #33

That's funny. You think I live a sheltered life. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #35

You certainly give that impression. Straw Man Aug 2014 #36

"If there were no guns available, then how would the gangbangers acquire them?" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #42

They couldn't if none were available. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #44

Have you ever been murdered before? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #46

You answer my question with a question. Starboard Tack Aug 2015 #63

"unlees you see them as a danger to you personally" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #69

Why do you misrepresent what I said? Starboard Tack Aug 2015 #72

Cartels smuggle tons of illegal drugs into America with relative impunity. hack89 Aug 2015 #57

Like taking coal to Newcastle. Starboard Tack Aug 2015 #60

The point is blueridge3210 Aug 2015 #61

I though gun control laws were going to starve gangs of their weapons hack89 Aug 2015 #62

What laws are you talking about? Starboard Tack Aug 2015 #65

We are talking about criminal gang members hack89 Aug 2015 #68

Why are we talking about them? Starboard Tack Aug 2015 #74

"If there were no guns available, then how would the gangbangers acquire them?" hack89 Aug 2015 #75

Educate the Public Spadedemo Aug 2014 #30

Well said and welcome to the dusty side of DU Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #45

I'd say it's mostly about feeling lied to discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #8

it's really going to happen isn't it? we can't even get sensible gun control let alone getting rid samsingh Aug 2014 #2

Is Shannon Watts authorized to speak for Bloomberg? nt ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #4

re: "Is Shannon Watts authorized to speak for Bloomberg?" discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #6

And that's why I vehemently oppose even more gun control legislation VScott Aug 2014 #11

Wouldn't heavier gun-control go a long way towards rock Aug 2014 #12

It might neutralize "some" arguments, but it would not change their goal. beevul Aug 2014 #13

The hurdle of the 2nd amendment rock Aug 2014 #14

That doesn't seem to bother them. beevul Aug 2014 #22

I do appreciate your comments and analyses rock Aug 2014 #23

No, because the measures that are actually advanced Glaug-Eldare Aug 2014 #17

The guns that they are fighting hardest to ban are involved in less than 300 murders/yr. benEzra Aug 2015 #55

They should take them Matrosov Aug 2014 #18

Saying "Gun control doesn't work.".... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2014 #20

This behavior is actually fairly common, D/I/S. pablo_marmol Aug 2014 #38

"There are too many guns in America" is what I hear said a lot krispos42 Aug 2014 #24

Hey, look. Nobody wants ALL guns taken away from EVERYONE. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #25

Looks like Putin. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #49

decrease the demand? No decrease the stupidity. Spadedemo Aug 2014 #31

It's odd HALO141 Aug 2014 #34

"Through each war we are in, combatants have become more and more willing to shoot to kill." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #43

I know at least one major pundit who favors banning guns. pablo_marmol Aug 2014 #27

Don't worry, this guy will protect your precious mwrguy Aug 2014 #28

Hard to believe that this is a legitimate ad for our President. pablo_marmol Aug 2014 #37

google is your friend mwrguy Aug 2014 #39

LOL! So it's from a mailer to union members. pablo_marmol Aug 2014 #40

"The James gang was coming to town at first sun... Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #50

Big help Irving discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #70

That song was/is a rip. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #76

And a liberal criminologist destroys the "Nobody wants to take your guns" meme pablo_marmol Aug 2014 #41

Try this one. oneshooter Aug 2014 #47

and the movable type printing press Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #48

Is it crazy that I'm less scared of citizens with guns than cops with guns? bravenak Aug 2014 #51

But the cops have training 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Aug 2014 #52

Training to unload the entire clip into a jaywalker. bravenak Aug 2014 #53

"But the cops have training" pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #56

FWIW, Chicago Cops only have to "qualify" once a year DonP Aug 2015 #58

beevul bumped this rot? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #59

Blah blah blah. beevul Aug 2015 #64

Your reality filters appear to be clogged. Starboard Tack Aug 2015 #71

No. Just no. Its your filter thats broken. beevul Aug 2015 #77

What dem would attend beevul's BBQ? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #78

Ahh, the tactic of misrepresentation. beevul Aug 2015 #79

overarching the underlying jimmy the one Aug 2015 #80

Typical. When confronted on misrepresentation, you double down and do it again. beevul Aug 2015 #81

does he or doesn't he, support bg checks jimmy the one Aug 2015 #86

Does he or doesn't he admit to misrepresenting what I've said? beevul Aug 2015 #88

You know Beevul.. virginia mountainman Aug 2015 #85

glaring _discrepancy jimmy the one Aug 2015 #66

You explain it. beevul Aug 2015 #67

Quoted with permission sarisataka Aug 2015 #73

Just now, from a Facebook discussion........ pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #82

I always find it funny DonP Aug 2015 #83

The ignorance is similar when it comes to the Constitution. branford Aug 2015 #84

This chap would like to take your guns: pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #87