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jimmy the one

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44. why is posting far right ideology allowed on DU?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:01 AM
Aug 2015

Last edited Mon Aug 31, 2015, 12:46 PM - Edit history (2)

Why is this 'beevul' character allowed to post here on DEMOCRAT UNDERGROUND, when he 1) consistently posts far rightwing ideology, 2) slanders & slurs democrats who support gun control efforts 3) has posted at least 9 posts on DU accusing gun control advocate & democrat Shannon Watts of what appears to be a false quote, two of which are OPs, and refuses to post a reputable source link for his ugly contention. 3) does not support background check legislation which over 95% of democrats do support, and uses far right nra reasoning to justify. 4)He sometimes posts misleading information which puts liberal & democrat cities & people in a bad light, when it comes to gun violence, thus tending to glorify red states with scant gun control.
A true democrat does not do these things with such venom & consistency as beevul does.

How do we regulars here at DU expose someone who posts far rightwing ideology? 'Alerting' simply puts a post before a jury, often which does not 'hide' the post due freedom of speech concerns or uncertainty, without realizing the underlying violation of tos.
What is the methodology to complain about a poster's violation of democrat principles of fairness & integrity on DU?

BEEVUL: Except we have her {Shannon watts} and MDAs {Moms Demand Action} proven lies, dishonesty, and verified anti-gun status, and you have no evidence that she was not running that twitter account.

I have no evidence? I have evidence that the tweet you posted is an altered version of Shannon's official tweet address.
I have asked you to post a LINK to the tweet you post from Shannon Watts, where she allegedly says "Mayor Bloomberg and I want guns gone. Period." And yet I have not seen one source link from you. You continue to spew lies & filth about a fine decent DEMOCRAT who is the spokeswoman for 'Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense', as if she were something to be abhorred.

I asked beevul to post a link: where's the reputable link to the tweet? Where is the reputable link to what you contend Shannon watts tweeted? - MikeBloomberg and I want guns gone. Period. Where is the reputable link? You apparently posted something from a gun blog;

Beevul's pathetic reply which evades & ducks the question: Its out there. If I remember right, this is one she deleted almost immediately, like so many other 'tell' tweets shes made.
POSTS 35 and 37: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=168148

In other words, BEEVUL provides NO reputable link that Shannon watts ever wrote that tweet - just that "it's out there" in internet land where WE should have to find it; he pathetically conjectures that she 'deleted' the address after posting.
The tweet address from the 'want guns gone' tweet is NOT Shannon watts official tweet address, but appears to be a bogus tweet address made by an impersonator adding an underscore (_) to her official tweet address.

beevul, posting no reputable source link: That's the "leader" of moms demand action, the group you and your dishonest buddies in the anti-gun camp are and have been desperately trying to sell to the American people as "reasonable", and she states point blank what the intentions of her lobbying group are, http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=168148

Here are at least 9 beevul posts where he slurs Shannon watts, but without posting a source link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=155400
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172159084
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=157519
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=156160
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=157549
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172159084
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172160038
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=168141
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=174857

beevul: Its different now, but that doesn't prove anything. You have no evidence that she was not running that twitter account.

And where, beevul, is YOUR solid evidence that Shannon watts posted that tweet? where is YOUR solid evidence that the 'Shannon@_Shannonwatts' twitter address is valid, since it is not her official address? (Shannon@shannonwatts)

There is ample evidence that the tweet has been done by a vindictive impersonator, to smear Shannon watts, yet beevul does not seriously consider it possible, and he continues to dispense misinformation on about a weekly basis.
Why is this far right wing character beevul allowed to post amongst us fairer minded democrats? I have seen rightwing gun trolls blocked for far less violations, coke machine, ex cop law student, and beevul makes Hansberry look like a saint.

The anti-gun outlook doesn't give a crap; it's elitist already... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #1
Wonder what he stands to gain from this? What is his ultimate goal. ileus Aug 2015 #2
Just took a look at online Ammo land mag. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #3
Your ignorance of the secondary source, and... beevul Aug 2015 #4
Other than gun issues safeinOhio Aug 2015 #5
If I post about those other things, feel free to call me out on them. beevul Aug 2015 #6
That is his politics, who cares. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #7
Bloomberg is many places besides the East Coast sarisataka Aug 2015 #11
Consult your nearest globe or map. beevul Aug 2015 #13
.fighting to keep a constitutional protected right isn't extreme. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #8
Define 'expanding'. beevul Aug 2015 #9
Cover the sale of all handguns safeinOhio Aug 2015 #10
Somehow, I doubt it would stop there. beevul Aug 2015 #12
I just ignored it when safeinOhio Aug 2015 #14
Thats nice, I ignore irrelevent lines of argument too, like yours. beevul Aug 2015 #15
My gun grabbing buddies? safeinOhio Aug 2015 #16
Wait...me stating the truth, means you struck a nerve? beevul Aug 2015 #17
I have a degree in psy safeinOhio Aug 2015 #18
Theres a difference between namecalling, and describing accurately, many gun control proponents... beevul Aug 2015 #19
LOUD & CLEAR, beevul is LYING jimmy the one Aug 2015 #20
You were alerted on by guess who using the usual passive aggressive alert distortions. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #22
built in bias jimmy the one Aug 2015 #25
Um, blueridge3210 Aug 2015 #26
Um Jimmy, sarisataka Aug 2015 #24
corroborate with a reputable source jimmy the one Aug 2015 #28
I am not twitter savvy sarisataka Aug 2015 #36
verified as bogus? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #37
I posted her resume sarisataka Aug 2015 #38
explain 'this' discrepancy jimmy the one Aug 2015 #30
You explain it. beevul Aug 2015 #31
defunct _by _you jimmy the one Aug 2015 #32
See this post. beevul Aug 2015 #33
shannon 'sez so' is an assertion jimmy the one Aug 2015 #34
Yes. It is. beevul Aug 2015 #35
preponderance of the evidence is for my pov jimmy the one Aug 2015 #39
No. Nonsense is for your POV, and indeed permeates it. beevul Aug 2015 #41
no real evidence whatsoever from beevul jimmy the one Aug 2015 #42
Says the defender of the dishonest antigun org funded by a racist fuckwad. beevul Aug 2015 #43
why is posting far right ideology allowed on DU? jimmy the one Aug 2015 #44
This is the wrong place for that post; you want 'Ask the Administrators', found at... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #45
thanks! for the helpful hint jimmy the one Aug 2015 #46
And thanks in return for *your* helpful hint! I altered the post title #47... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #48
In order to do that, you'd have to lie about me... beevul Aug 2015 #62
Shannon Watts helped to defeat Dems, why are you supporting her at DU? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #47
some democrats - begich & pryor jimmy the one Aug 2015 #49
Ahem. This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Gun Control Underground... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #50
height of arrogance jimmy the one Aug 2015 #52
Wow sarisataka Aug 2015 #51
refrain from stupidity please jimmy the one Aug 2015 #53
So what is your point sarisataka Aug 2015 #54
I voted for Ed Markey and Liz Warren, both quite vocal gun control supporters friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #56
more like a kiss of death jimmy the one Sep 2015 #63
Evidence sarisataka Sep 2015 #64
antagonistic rating jimmy the one Sep 2015 #65
If voicing support for sarisataka Sep 2015 #66
funded by independence USA it seems jimmy the one Sep 2015 #68
If it helps you to sleep sarisataka Sep 2015 #69
If anything, it might help me - begich jimmy the one Sep 2015 #71
Democrats were trying sarisataka Sep 2015 #72
"MDA did not work...to get a republican elected" They worked to get Dems *un*-elected... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #70
"MDA did not work against pryor or begich to get a republican elected" Bullshit! friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #67
Refrain from defending people who work against Democrats, please friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #55
Watts did not get *anyone* pro-control elected in those races. Where's the win? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #57
Your're not supposed to notice that sarisataka Aug 2015 #58
Bloomberg won, alright- just not the win his credulous supporters think he wanted friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #59
B-1 sarisataka Aug 2015 #60
You'll call anything you don't agree with 'right wing ideology'. beevul Aug 2015 #61
"background checks on guy buyers. " beergood Sep 2015 #73
The NRA salutes you! Ammoland salutes you! Have you informed Ted Nugent of your brilliance? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #21
spoon feeding jimmy the one Aug 2015 #23
Both Bloomberg and Tom Steyer as billionaires made a difference in Oregon's election in 2014... cascadiance Aug 2015 #29
I helped a bit in passing that law. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #27
Thank you for... virginia mountainman Aug 2015 #40
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