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In reply to the discussion: Bloomberg Spends $764,232.35 Buying Oregon Background Check Bill [View all]jimmy the one
(2,721 posts)49. some democrats - begich & pryor
... in the aftermath of the shootings in Newtown, Conn., a number of entertainment industry activists decried a vote that prevented the Senate from moving forward background check legislation. Some vowed to withhold support from Democrats who voted No, including Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), both of whom are in the midst of tough reelection races.
Those two democrat senators begich & pryor voted with rightwing republicans to help defeat a democrat sponsored bill for background checks. Begich & Pryor voted against the democrat bill and against 95% of American support for the bill, including Alaska & arkansas.
MDA did not withhold support from two true democrats, they withheld support (if so) from two senators with diametrically opposing positions to theirs who voted against the very ideals the MDA group stood for.
Do you actually think MDA withholding support (financial or what?) did anything to defeat pryor who lost by ~15 pts? both pryor & begich ran in two heavy republican red states, Arkansas & Alaska. To blame MDA or any of the groups for withholding support is irrelevant & a red herring, & both begich & pryor reaped what they sowed with gun control groups, where it's their prerogative to do with their opinions & money what they want.
Cotton had garnered 55% of the vote, according to unofficial and incomplete returns... Pryor had 40% http://arkansasnews.com/news/arkansas/arkansans-pick-cotton-westerman-crawford-womack#sthash.z3OOBkMX.dpuf
icon: Shannon Watts was the titular head of what, at the time, was Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America (now Everytown for Gun Safety) Some 'democrat'...
Shannon Watts is a fine democrat, a better one than Mr B is or ever will be. You should redirect your 'some democrat' remark to begich & pryor, who voted against the democrat bill for background checks;
To think that Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense would support those two who voted against their very principles & what they stand for, is somewhat absurd.
Those two democrat senators begich & pryor voted with rightwing republicans to help defeat a democrat sponsored bill for background checks. Begich & Pryor voted against the democrat bill and against 95% of American support for the bill, including Alaska & arkansas.
MDA did not withhold support from two true democrats, they withheld support (if so) from two senators with diametrically opposing positions to theirs who voted against the very ideals the MDA group stood for.
Do you actually think MDA withholding support (financial or what?) did anything to defeat pryor who lost by ~15 pts? both pryor & begich ran in two heavy republican red states, Arkansas & Alaska. To blame MDA or any of the groups for withholding support is irrelevant & a red herring, & both begich & pryor reaped what they sowed with gun control groups, where it's their prerogative to do with their opinions & money what they want.
Cotton had garnered 55% of the vote, according to unofficial and incomplete returns... Pryor had 40% http://arkansasnews.com/news/arkansas/arkansans-pick-cotton-westerman-crawford-womack#sthash.z3OOBkMX.dpuf
icon: Shannon Watts was the titular head of what, at the time, was Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America (now Everytown for Gun Safety) Some 'democrat'...
Shannon Watts is a fine democrat, a better one than Mr B is or ever will be. You should redirect your 'some democrat' remark to begich & pryor, who voted against the democrat bill for background checks;
To think that Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense would support those two who voted against their very principles & what they stand for, is somewhat absurd.
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Theres a difference between namecalling, and describing accurately, many gun control proponents...
beevul
Aug 2015
#19
You were alerted on by guess who using the usual passive aggressive alert distortions.
Fred Sanders
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#22
This is the wrong place for that post; you want 'Ask the Administrators', found at...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2015
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And thanks in return for *your* helpful hint! I altered the post title #47...
friendly_iconoclast
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#48
Shannon Watts helped to defeat Dems, why are you supporting her at DU?
friendly_iconoclast
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#47
Ahem. This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Gun Control Underground...
friendly_iconoclast
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#50
I voted for Ed Markey and Liz Warren, both quite vocal gun control supporters
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2015
#56
"MDA did not work...to get a republican elected" They worked to get Dems *un*-elected...
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#70
"MDA did not work against pryor or begich to get a republican elected" Bullshit!
friendly_iconoclast
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#67
Watts did not get *anyone* pro-control elected in those races. Where's the win?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2015
#57
Bloomberg won, alright- just not the win his credulous supporters think he wanted
friendly_iconoclast
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The NRA salutes you! Ammoland salutes you! Have you informed Ted Nugent of your brilliance?
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Both Bloomberg and Tom Steyer as billionaires made a difference in Oregon's election in 2014...
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