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In reply to the discussion: Xpost: Austrailian gun control... [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)40. You are also using a cheap and obvious appeal to authority
Here an 'actual' australian guest here (being treated like dirt by some) Swiss Tony refers to the aussie gun buyback of 96'97 Yeah, Howard spent millions on the gun retrieval. You know why? Because we wanted it. Australians turned in thousands of weapons because we were sickened with what happened at Port Arthur.
He refers to it as 'gun retrieval', and I think Swiss Tony is better knowledgeable on it than the likes of a rightwing agitator here on DU, trying to twist facts to fit a 2nd Amendment Mythology.
He refers to it as 'gun retrieval', and I think Swiss Tony is better knowledgeable on it than the likes of a rightwing agitator here on DU, trying to twist facts to fit a 2nd Amendment Mythology.
It matters not a whit where a poster is from, their posts are either accurate or not.
Since 'retrieval' means "getting something back", this was not a retrieval, as the
Australian government never owned these guns in the first place.
Swiss Tony's claim is demonstrably inaccurate.
Fail on his part, and an even bigger one on yours for either believing him or trying to
sell it to us if you don't actually believe it yourself
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it was undemocratic in that he didn't put the question to a formal referendum.
SwissTony
Sep 2015
#26
FFS, do you really claim that knife and gun are the same in a mass murder? Which would you....
Logical
Sep 2015
#31
Are you saying all confrontations favor or are equal to the capabilities of the victim?
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#56
"It's how we deal with them that determines what kind of society we live in."
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#58
No, but I think the fear of them should be dealt with in the appropriate way
Starboard Tack
Sep 2015
#59
It's definitely irrational if you think criminals don't strike in public.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#62
What is reasonable about demanding people not defend themselves outside their homes?
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#66
"If the US wants to remain credible in terms of basic societal norms..."
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#79
It's amusing that you can fabricate so many things about what freedom is or isn't and yet
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#96
It only makes a difference if you care about what kind of society you want to live in
Starboard Tack
Sep 2015
#72
Anyone living in the country should have equal rights in terms of self defense
Starboard Tack
Sep 2015
#106
Do you know how many guns have been confiscated from the total in the country?
Eleanors38
Sep 2015
#12
The pro-gun regulars also don't defend those who work against Democrats seeking reelection...
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#25
This is the same person that finds it acceptable to attack Dems seeking reelection:
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#38
So if some future president abolished voting but paid each voter $475 you'd be okay with that.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#47
"bring back to a more satisfactory state" Back to something that did not exist previously...
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#45
If the owners had no choice and the government did not own the property then it was confiscation.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#51
"Icon and I simply know how to read a dictionary..." No doubt James can also read quite well
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2015
#53