Gun Control & RKBA

guillaumeb

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20. Some agreement, and some qualification.

Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:30 PM

Sep 2015

Criminals announce themselves, IN THE ACT, but there is rarely advance notice.

If, to paraphrase your words, carrying a gun makes some people feel good, this feeling is to some degree an illusion. Carrying a weapon can provide a feeling of safety, a feeling of security, and a feeling that one is accomplishing something.

But studies have shown that people living in a home where a gun is kept are more likely to be the victim of gun violence.

And yes, the vast majority of gun owners are not the problem, but in a country with an estimated 100 million plus weapons, a small fraction of irresponsible gun owners can have a big impact. 30,000 gun deaths a year is a huge number of victims. All to provide the illusion of security? A high price to pay.

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District of Columbia [View all] TeddyR Sep 2015 OP

Most early gun "control" laws were created for the explicit purpose of jonno99 Sep 2015 #1

I am all for ONLY Black people having guns. randys1 Sep 2015 #26

That's an explicitly racist statement. Got any other racially based qualifications in mind? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #39

wow just plain wow. clffrdjk Sep 2015 #43

That's an odd statement to make, why is it you only care about the safety and security ileus Sep 2015 #48

"Draconian and unconstitutional"? Sounds like common sense to me. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #2

The constitutional right to keep arms is not unlimited SecularMotion Sep 2015 #3

Your problems are not legal ones hack89 Sep 2015 #5

Which does not mean that any regulation is constitutional. krispos42 Sep 2015 #32

In the real world more guns did not equal more violence hack89 Sep 2015 #4

gun ownership rates declined 1993 - ~2012 jimmy the one Sep 2015 #7

So what is all the fuss about? hack89 Sep 2015 #18

political rulings abound jimmy the one Sep 2015 #6

Excellent points. eom guillaumeb Sep 2015 #11

It seems that somehow you neglected to mention the fact Big_Mike Sep 2015 #46

Selective acceptance of Supreme Court decisions: Not just for county clerks in Kentucky! friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #47

Obviously, Judge Millet is not a real and true Democrat! branford Sep 2015 #55

"What is unreasonable about registering..." Question: should the police stop jonno99 Sep 2015 #8

The problem with your quite reasonable statement, is that criminals do not always announce guillaumeb Sep 2015 #10

"criminals do not always announce themselves." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #14

And do all gun sellers register their sales? guillaumeb Sep 2015 #17

So implement UBCs hack89 Sep 2015 #19

And what is the NRA position on background checks? eom guillaumeb Sep 2015 #21

Beats the shit out of me. hack89 Sep 2015 #22

I looked it up. NRA is opposed. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #24

So? 17 states passed UBCs hack89 Sep 2015 #25

One could be left with the impression -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #28

Why does the NRA (and most other gun rights groups) oppose a national gun registry? branford Sep 2015 #30

The problems you may be encountering: Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #41

Do you understand that a criminal cannot be prosecuted for Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #27

A couple of thoughts: jonno99 Sep 2015 #15

Some agreement, and some qualification. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #20

I think it is important to understand the language of "feeling". jonno99 Sep 2015 #29

30,000 gun deaths a year is the equivalent of a Sept 11 every month. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #33

64 percent of which gejohnston Sep 2015 #36

The utopia you seek is not acheivable - not while they are some who are intent on jonno99 Sep 2015 #38

You've just inadvertently gave a resounding defense of policies such as "stop and frisk" branford Sep 2015 #23

Canada repealed the requirement to register almost all long guns. Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #31

It was a partial repeal: guillaumeb Sep 2015 #34

Why don't you persuade us of the wisdom, necessity and constitutionality branford Sep 2015 #35

Money, and fear, talk in US politics. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #42

so not a single comment on how you would make your version better than Canada's failure? clffrdjk Sep 2015 #44

I did not say better, I said the same type of legislation. guillaumeb Sep 2015 #49

The actual polling doesn't appear to support your claims for "reasonable" gun control, branford Sep 2015 #45

What is your source for your claim guillaumeb Sep 2015 #50

Time for a vision check discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #51

Approximately 80 - 100 million, not billion. branford Sep 2015 #54

Billion was a mis-type. I blame the computer of course. eom guillaumeb Sep 2015 #57

you post disinformation #2 jimmy the one Sep 2015 #53

Nope. Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #37

POC jimmy the one Sep 2015 #12

"No it's not that simple at all." On this you are exactly correct. However, there jonno99 Sep 2015 #16

many roots from a root ball jimmy the one Sep 2015 #40

Until they added the little test, I actually thought reasonable yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #52

was the test concerning gun regulations? guillaumeb Sep 2015 #56

Yes. I still don't like it. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #58

Would you say the same thing about driving tests? guillaumeb Sep 2015 #59

Well constitutionally you don't have a right to drive yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #60

D.C.'s laws resonate with past Jim (large, raucous black bird) laws in the ol' South. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #9

JFK said... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #13