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The Concealed-Carry Fantasy [View all] liberal N proud Oct 2015 OP
Thanks anyway but I'll keep my progressive 2A rights. ileus Oct 2015 #1
So you subscribe to the concealed carry fantasy? Human101948 Oct 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #8
You subscribe to the concealed carry fantasy as well? Human101948 Oct 2015 #17
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Exercise your freedom of thought... Human101948 Oct 2015 #23
Laws don't tell us what's allowed michreject Oct 2015 #32
However, if it is not a guaranteed right then... Human101948 Oct 2015 #39
Perhaps one should worry about restricting the criminals and leave law-abiding people alone. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #41
Thank you Mr. NRA spokesman... Human101948 Oct 2015 #43
Lol. You are so far off, but if that comforts you, then I have done my work. jtuck004 Oct 2015 #48
Another response devoid of content... Human101948 Oct 2015 #49
Talk about devoid of comment. GGJohn Oct 2015 #50
Sort of... Popped right out, there, didn't it. "Oh, darling! I didn't realize!" Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #110
Ironic, from someone resorting to a tiresome cliche. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #60
My wife thrived on the small penis jokes Big_Mike Oct 2015 #100
I have fun with those, too. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #116
Other than the tens of millions who will hold the restricters accountable for it at the polls. beevul Oct 2015 #87
The Second recognizes a right to keep and Bear arms... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #109
I subscribe to the freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution AlbertCat Oct 2015 #44
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"flintlock" is not contained in the 2A and... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #70
"flintlock" is not contained in the 2A AlbertCat Oct 2015 #117
I'm guessing by spiral bore gejohnston Oct 2015 #125
The proper term is "rifled" sarisataka Oct 2015 #126
You probably have no real idea but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #129
And why do people demonstrably ignorant of the subject discussed... Marengo Oct 2015 #133
The irony is thick on that post DonP Oct 2015 #73
There was nothing like a computer in the 18th century. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #118
"Again....why do 2A advocates act so obtuse? Why do they ignore context?" DonP Oct 2015 #128
And you sent this by posting a print copy? I mean, "press" IS THE TERM USED. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #111
You certainly seem invested in framing it as a fantasy. Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #30
Thanks Mr. Truthgiver... Human101948 Oct 2015 #40
Look closer at the URL Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #52
It's an opinion piece, nothing more, nothing less, GGJohn Oct 2015 #54
are you a bitter clinger type??? ileus Oct 2015 #19
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The 2A doesn't say what you think it says and you know it. Darb Oct 2015 #7
Sure it does, GGJohn Oct 2015 #11
And they have confirmed that money is speech.... daleanime Oct 2015 #28
Exactly what my post said. GGJohn Oct 2015 #29
And money is speech.... daleanime Oct 2015 #31
That may be so michreject Oct 2015 #34
To join a militia? daleanime Oct 2015 #38
To join a militia? AlbertCat Oct 2015 #46
What were the federal regulations concerning the militia when the 2A was ratified? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #75
What were the federal regulations concerning the militia when the 2A was ratified? AlbertCat Oct 2015 #90
That means nothing. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #103
"well regulated" AlbertCat Oct 2015 #105
"Well-regulated" meant "well-equipped and proficient with their arms" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #107
"Well-regulated" meant "well-equipped and proficient with their arms" AlbertCat Oct 2015 #115
Do you apply that standard sarisataka Oct 2015 #119
The press is not the same thing as a gun AlbertCat Oct 2015 #120
Obviously sarisataka Oct 2015 #122
You're very wishy-washy about when the standards you choose get applied. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #124
"You don't get to use 18th definitions in the 1st part and 21st century definitions" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #121
And you can only use a moveable type printing press. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #123
I'm not the one arguing only 18c. technology applies; you are. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #127
Damn, cat, the First specifically mentions a technology: "Press." Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #138
The RWNJ supreme court (most right wing in nearly 100 years) that will change soon? MillennialDem Oct 2015 #33
Possible, but unlikely. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #59
And perhaps needful to say, that even Justice Stevens Big_Mike Oct 2015 #101
That doesn't mean... Godot51 Oct 2015 #42
OK, so is the court also full of shit on abortion and gay marriage??? Big_Mike Oct 2015 #102
Justice Scalia has already said that the 2nd "undoubtedly" has its limitations.. n/t secondwind Oct 2015 #36
guns kill people I know... ileus Oct 2015 #18
The 2nd Amendment says what the NRA and right wing SCOTUS says it does... Human101948 Oct 2015 #21
Neither of those entities influence my take on the 2nd Am in the least. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #55
Is there any gun restriction you would favor? Jerry442 Oct 2015 #37
easy gejohnston Oct 2015 #62
You must be referring to a Glock 7. Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #74
You sound so silly. "cold dead hands" LOL Logical Oct 2015 #68
you and your NRA talking points. ileus Oct 2015 #69
Your "rights" shit is NRA BS. nt Logical Oct 2015 #78
from 1791....yup. ileus Oct 2015 #79
You don't believe people have the right to carry a gun? beevul Oct 2015 #86
A lot of facts there underpants Oct 2015 #2
There are no facts EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #4
A place where none of this touches - in other words, another fantasy. ROFL. jtuck004 Oct 2015 #47
Prohibition does work EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #61
even before the National Firearms Act gejohnston Oct 2015 #63
"We HAVE prohibited many things to GREAT success howeve" < Your definition of great success leaves jtuck004 Oct 2015 #64
here's the thing about all of that EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #91
you are missing the point gejohnston Oct 2015 #92
nonsense EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #104
this is the guy that used gejohnston Oct 2015 #108
What!!!! GGJohn Oct 2015 #93
That assertion was so disconnected from reality... beevul Oct 2015 #94
What it proves to me is that the poster has no clue GGJohn Oct 2015 #95
Not just you, everyone else that DOES know what they're talking about as well... beevul Oct 2015 #96
I think you are too faith-based to have a worthwhile conversation with. You have no data, and the jtuck004 Oct 2015 #97
CT has an AWB - Adam Lanza's AR-15 was not legally an assault weapon. hack89 Oct 2015 #106
So gun ownership IS about fear, thought so. randys1 Oct 2015 #76
How will you "overrule" virginia mountainman Oct 2015 #67
The suit be very very angry with them... beevul Oct 2015 #98
I wonder if said MAIG stationary would have a "drink ring" from a 32oz Coke on it? virginia mountainman Oct 2015 #99
It would indeed. beevul Oct 2015 #131
Violence Policy Center? GGJohn Oct 2015 #5
So you've got nothing? Got it. Darb Oct 2015 #9
I've got lots more than you do. GGJohn Oct 2015 #10
What a load of crap ol' "GGJohn" is spreading OldRedneck Oct 2015 #13
I seriously doubt you've forgotten more about firearms than I'll ever learn. GGJohn Oct 2015 #15
Seriously, I would challenge him to a duel! Human101948 Oct 2015 #25
Naw, GGJohn Oct 2015 #26
Which brigade sir? DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #65
Being retired military imparts no especial wisdom about guns, as see: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #83
With "two gun safes full" YOU are a gun nut, at least according to the metric... Marengo Oct 2015 #132
Bump DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #134
Still waiting DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #139
I suspect we've seen the last of that poster here friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #140
Probably true DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #141
I'm a grown man and I have lots of toys....dirtbike, kayak, Jeep... ileus Oct 2015 #72
Allow me to inject a few facts discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #12
Glock fondlers The Wizard Oct 2015 #14
What the hell is a Glock fondler? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #16
When is the last time someone grabbed your gun? Human101948 Oct 2015 #22
Nobody has ever grabbed my firearms, GGJohn Oct 2015 #24
A term employed by someone with no relevant argument. (nm) Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #56
You're not one of those "Glocks are the only firearm" types are you. ileus Oct 2015 #81
"The death toll includes 29 mass killings of three or more people" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #27
The definition of "mass killings" has become quite flexible... Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #58
using the VPC as a source gejohnston Oct 2015 #35
it isn't an article, gejohnston Oct 2015 #51
CCW should be banned. deathrind Oct 2015 #53
"Intestinal fortitude" is irrelevant. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #57
the regressives are already skeert of the 3 people that Open Carry... ileus Oct 2015 #71
Open carry is just showing off, CC covers all the gun needs. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #80
But the poster wanted OC only no CC. ileus Oct 2015 #82
In most cases, not all, the very fact that you are applying for a conceal carry permit is why you randys1 Oct 2015 #77
So a valid use of lethal force sarisataka Oct 2015 #85
"Large amounts of cash:" Like the editor of Mediamatters & hiz armed bodyguard? Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #113
Actually, states have the power to regulate the manner of carry. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #112
Violence Policy Center sarisataka Oct 2015 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #84
The VPC? Please. beevul Oct 2015 #88
In other news, Exxon released a new "study" Kang Colby Oct 2015 #89
Sorry, I will retain the right of concealed-carry... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #114
Of the 579 shootings, how many took place in a "gun-free zone"? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #130
Oooops! "Police: Customer with concealed carry license kills robber at corner store" DonP Oct 2015 #135
Was this in Cook County? GGJohn Oct 2015 #136
Yup, Chicago South Side. 51st street. Amazing the paper picked it up DonP Nov 2015 #137
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