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Gun Control & RKBA

deathrind

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12. The 4th.

Reply to Eleanors38 (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:06 PM

Nov 2015

Specifically used both "the people" and "persons". The founding fathers were pretty smart, I think they knew the difference between the generality of the term "the people" and the specificity of the word "persons".

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2nd Amendment showerthought... [View all] Kang Colby Nov 2015 OP

I know people like their guns itsrobert Nov 2015 #1

Actually... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #2

Don't spoil other people's romantic moments.... FSogol Nov 2015 #5

Well, some controllers say the best thing to do with explosive diarrhea... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #6

What are arms? JonathanRackham Nov 2015 #26

history jimmy the one Nov 2015 #3

You forgot TeddyR Nov 2015 #10

arbitrary power of posters jimmy the one Nov 2015 #22

Actually TeddyR Nov 2015 #27

You are excluding a mountain of case law. (Verdugo-Urquidez, Emerson, etc.) Kang Colby Nov 2015 #19

This ^^^ beevul Nov 2015 #20

Very good post TeddyR Nov 2015 #21

pennsy minority rkba report jimmy the one Nov 2015 #24

Setting aside everything else that is wrong about your post TeddyR Nov 2015 #28

get new glasses jimmy the one Nov 2015 #29

sam adams proposal was withdrawn jimmy the one Nov 2015 #30

don't feel bad for us jimmy the one Nov 2015 #23

Your argument boils down to Kang Colby Nov 2015 #31

state constitutional rkba's jimmy the one Nov 2015 #25

The 2A. deathrind Nov 2015 #4

Re-read the Fourth. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #7

The 4th. deathrind Nov 2015 #12

They seem to have equated them both in the same sentence. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #13

Right off the top of my head one issue I have with your interpretation TeddyR Nov 2015 #17

The Second Amendment TeddyR Nov 2015 #8

There is a clear difference between the 4th and the 2nd. deathrind Nov 2015 #11

Thanks for the response and link TeddyR Nov 2015 #16

The 2nd was intended to do 1 thing - ensure the effectiveness of the Militias of the several States. jmg257 Nov 2015 #9

The right to own firearms should be understood at a primary part of natural law. ileus Nov 2015 #14

One small correction. branford Nov 2015 #15

There's a good bit of scholarly work that supports exactly that interpretation TeddyR Nov 2015 #18