Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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68. perhaps this one better

Thu Nov 12, 2015, 08:34 PM

Nov 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders
compared to this one
http://www.news9.com/story/19858704/12-year-old-girl-shoots-intruder-during-home-invasion
On a follow up, the guy she shot is a known sex offender.
and 14 isn't really a child, they are young adults. If treated and brought up as such, they will act as such.

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13-year-old SC boy shoots and kills intruder while home alone [View all] Kang Colby Nov 2015 OP

Yeah TeddyR Nov 2015 #1

Re: school... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #2

But who cares? His slaughter of another human who was a perceived threat... Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #4

So you think it was better for him to risk getting raped or shot dead? yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #7

Those were the only choices? Kill or be killed/raped? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #11

If the cops were correct in the situation then yes yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #14

Kumbaya. We're done. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #21

I would consider two guys breaking into my home not a perceived threat, but an actual threat. Waldorf Nov 2015 #60

"perceived threat"? beevul Nov 2015 #28

LOL! Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #29

Keep laughing. beevul Nov 2015 #35

Why, Buzz, you don't support the Joe Biden self-defense technique? Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #52

Good riddance to bad rubbish The Green Manalishi Nov 2015 #110

Awesome! The boy is now guilty of taking a human life. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #3

Here's a simple solution, GGJohn Nov 2015 #8

No, this is the dumbest statement of all time: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #12

How do you know it's a lie? GGJohn Nov 2015 #15

Read the story. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #22

There's been a tremndous uptick door attacks discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #32

Your attitude is precisely why cops have gotten away with murder for so many years. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #34

How willing are you to discuss the alternatives that the home invaders had? beevul Nov 2015 #36

Your connecting this to cop shootings is irrelevant discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #43

Brutality is what you are doing to logic to justify your position beardown Nov 2015 #41

"Only thing...attacked was the door:" Only thing torpedoed was Lusitania's hull plating. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #54

JESUS CHRIST!!!!! GGJohn Nov 2015 #63

...wait...there's sort of an echo here discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #65

Jesus. I thought I was in The Time Machine (1960). Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #121

Although I questioned why the kid was home TeddyR Nov 2015 #9

Ok. You value possessions and privacy over human life. Noted. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #13

What part of he broke into the home did you miss? GGJohn Nov 2015 #16

"attempting to break in" safeinOhio Nov 2015 #18

Not for these guys: lethal force is always justified whenever a threat exists (real or perceived) Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #24

I guess you support safeinOhio Nov 2015 #47

Home invaders (hence the expression) usually expect someone to be home. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #55

I agree, GGJohn Nov 2015 #62

Unless you're a mind reader or can time travel... Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #20

Kill first, ask questions later. Got it. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #82

Don't try to put words in my mouth. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #87

Ok -- would you mind distilling your word salad to a single sentence? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #88

I've actually BEEN in that situation. (warning: way more than one sentence) Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #91

If you consider an intelligent, properly spelled, properly punctuated, literate reply Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #118

I value the sanctity of the home TeddyR Nov 2015 #56

"Stand your ground." In most states, you would be on legal footing. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #81

stand your ground doesn't apply here gejohnston Nov 2015 #83

If you are breaking into MY home, I value MY LIFE over yours... Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #79

Nice story. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #80

He didn't *have* to run out the front door, SC's "castle doctrine" laws Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #84

I get it: kill 'em. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #85

No, you shoot to stop the threat DonP Nov 2015 #86

Interesting rationalization: "shoot to stop the threat" Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #93

Not a rationalization, it's just what we teach and what the law allows DonP Nov 2015 #95

If somebody beats down my door, goddamnit, I'm threatened tularetom Nov 2015 #103

Obviously you don't "get" *anything* about this subject... Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #92

So, where was I wrong with the "kill first, ask questions later"? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #94

You STILL don't get it, and continue to defend criminals, so all I can say is... Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #97

Defend criminals? Care to quote me where I defended any criminal? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #99

Funny you bring that up, to us it seems gun control "fans" are more like them DonP Nov 2015 #102

Funny you should bring that up. beevul Nov 2015 #107

And this equates to me defending criminals???? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #108

Wait, what? beevul Nov 2015 #109

You think that... beevul Nov 2015 #112

Since you believe that the child is guilty, and the other two are innocent. oneshooter Nov 2015 #116

How about right here?? Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #113

Your interlocutor can't even make up his own mind... beevul Nov 2015 #114

Hell, he can't even get the story right, and keeps defending the criminals Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #115

The Hug-a-Thug is strong in this thread, Jedi. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #120

Could have run out the front door into the other two guys breaking in from the front. beardown Nov 2015 #117

So when is sarisataka Nov 2015 #17

He shot through a door. Blindly. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #23

That doesn't answer the question sarisataka Nov 2015 #25

Damn, I swear to God I have debated you before in a dark, damp hole in a rock. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #27

You did not answer sarisataka Nov 2015 #31

I answered, you misread my answer. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #33

LOL sarisataka Nov 2015 #37

" to the contrary, I am encouraging you to speak" beevul Nov 2015 #39

I find it odd sarisataka Nov 2015 #42

It speaks to the courage of their convictions. beevul Nov 2015 #44

Wrong again. That's twice you misread my answer Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #46

He can't misread an answer you never gave. beevul Nov 2015 #48

the hive is in full hum Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #50

Then correct me sarisataka Nov 2015 #51

I note that a day and a half later, no correction has been made friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #111

The fact that they were trying to break in and shoot inside the house PROVE that they were a threat. beevul Nov 2015 #30

It's never too early to train your children to defend themselves. ileus Nov 2015 #5

And always leave a loaded gun or two lying around when you leave your kids home alone. stone space Nov 2015 #53

Welcome back............... GGJohn Nov 2015 #64

DGU is what? TexasProgresive Nov 2015 #6

Why didn't he just run out the front door and call 911? SunSeeker Nov 2015 #10

and if someone was covering the front door? gejohnston Nov 2015 #67

He saw them pull up. You're trying too hard. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #69

He saw the ones in the BACK YARD pull up. beevul Nov 2015 #70

don't care gejohnston Nov 2015 #71

No, I don't think he should risk his life, that's why I asked why he didn't leave. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #73

just because the story doesn't say there gejohnston Nov 2015 #74

There's really no point to this conversation, you are creating your own facts. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #75

not quite, gejohnston Nov 2015 #77

The other side of the story safeinOhio Nov 2015 #19

"Shit happens". Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #26

Thats a DIFFERENT story. beevul Nov 2015 #38

That would be an entirely sarisataka Nov 2015 #40

Then how about this safeinOhio Nov 2015 #45

What does that have to do with the OP? N/T beevul Nov 2015 #49

As I stated above TeddyR Nov 2015 #57

This 14 year old was in the house with his parents safeinOhio Nov 2015 #58

Perhaps TeddyR Nov 2015 #59

Post was about children safeinOhio Nov 2015 #61

perhaps this one better gejohnston Nov 2015 #68

That's not the other side of the story, GGJohn Nov 2015 #66

LOL it is amusing too see them flip out about stories of this nature.. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #72

You know whats more amusing? beevul Nov 2015 #78

Even more amusing? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #90

Speaking of 'full of hum this morning'... beevul Nov 2015 #98

Nicely played, Mr. Rhetorical! Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #100

Look, I'd rather have a real debate... beevul Nov 2015 #101

You don't want a debate -- you want only to attempt to humiliate your "opponents." Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #104

I can see how you'd confuse the two. beevul Nov 2015 #105

What are you talking about? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #89

Breaking into an occupied residential dwelling is considered a potentially lethal threat branford Nov 2015 #96

You are mistaken.. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #106

That could have been me at age 13 (or 10) had circumstances Purveyor Nov 2015 #76

Here's a better link, with more information on the story... Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #119