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jimmy the one

(2,724 posts)
7. gun ownership rates declining nationwide
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:40 PM
Nov 2015

beardown: Regardless, non-gun owners supporting gun ownership.

You apparently read it wrong; most increase I mentioned would be to existing gun owners obtaining a ccw permit, 'just to have it'. Tiny percentage of non gun owners would get one, unless they subsequently became a gun owner as well.

beardown: - you cannot infer a 61% increase in gun owners over the 4 year period. " is quibbling over the crumbs. 61, 66, 57, it is increasing far and above the rate of population increase.

Again that's not what I wrote; since the total of 'non-gun-owners' is increasing along with that of gun owners, & you missed the point about existing gun owners getting ccw permits. Somewhere between 5% & 10% yearly increase in gun owners, imo, for those 4 years. Massachusetts doesn't have that high a rate of gun ownership to begin with (22.6%, 2015).

Actually there are 3 reputable polls that show NATIONAL gun ownership RATES have fallen over the past 20 years: Gallup, Pew, & GSS (general social survey).

1) Gallup: .. even Gallup's numbers show a decline in gun ownership since the early 1990s, from 54% of households in late 1993 to 43% as of this fall. http://www.gallup.com/poll/186236/americans-desire-stricter-gun-laws-sharply.aspx

2): General Social Survey (GSS) .. data show a substantial decline in the shares of both households and individuals with guns... 1973, 49% reported having a gun or revolver in their home or garage. In 2012, 34% said they had a gun in their home or garage.
.. personal gun ownership in 1980, 29% said a gun in their home personally belonged to them. This stands at 22% in the 2012 GSS survey. http://www.people-press.org/2013/03/12/section-3-gun-ownership-trends-and-demographics/
3) ... The Pew Research Center has tracked gun ownership since 1993, and our surveys largely confirm the General Social Survey trend. In our Dec 1993 survey, 45% reported having a gun in their household; in early 1994, the GSS found 44% saying they had a gun in their home. A Jan 2013 Pew Research Center survey found 33% saying they had a gun, rifle or pistol in their home, as did 34% in the 2012 wave of {GSS}.

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Gun ownership has become a political statement, too. earthside Nov 2015 #1
I agree. I also contend those huge lines at gun shows post-Sandy Hook were demos... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #2
That's about the same for Illinois, both Deep Blue states. DonP Nov 2015 #3
ccw permit does not nec mean new gun owner jimmy the one Nov 2015 #4
False. Kang Colby Nov 2015 #5
So when did CCW become a fashion accessory? beardown Nov 2015 #6
gun ownership rates declining nationwide jimmy the one Nov 2015 #7
Got it. beevul Nov 2015 #8
"Situational credibility" at work DonP Nov 2015 #9
Par for the course with some. N/T beevul Nov 2015 #10
I just added another one Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #12
Per the Boston Globe, most gun owners in MA have a license to carry friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #13
Yeah, you must have an LTC Kang Colby Nov 2015 #14
zogby push poll jimmy the one Nov 2015 #15
You are striving mightily to divert attention from the OP friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #17
What do polls have to do with the demonstable increase in gun ownership in MA? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #11
You noticed that too DonP Nov 2015 #16
I await the revelation of his credentials in sociology and/or statistics friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #18
Two bits says they will be from an obscure, old "survey"? DonP Nov 2015 #19
...accompanied by a 1500 word exegesis, with lots of bolding and italics n/t friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #20
You win! DonP Nov 2015 #22
Nowhere near the predicted word count, but the superfluous italics and bolding appeared... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #24
zogby worst pollster in the world - nate silver jimmy the one Nov 2015 #21
Another failed diversion-polls *still* have zip to do with the OP friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #23
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