Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: The most effective and most often used murder weapon [View all]jimmy the one
(2,717 posts)beevul: And yet 99.9x percent of guns aren't used in murders.
2) 99.9 percent of gun owners do not shoot or kill anyone. Focus on the .1 percent who misuse guns, and leave the rest of us who don't, and our guns, the hell alone. Member of the 99.9 percent.
You are still posting these blatant lies. I witted you last nov 17, 2015, that the figures you cite are for approx ONE YEAR ONLY. So your premise is invalid, since gun owners over the course of their lifetimes, are involved in shooting or killing someone far more than what you contend. You need to reword your signature line, & rethink (ha) your contentions.
Here is my post from nov 17, 2015. I suppose it won't do much good this time either, the 2nd Amendment Mythology is too ingrained in some people.
You do realize that is for one year don't you? When you take your 99.9% over the course of a gun owner's lifetime of 75 years, the pure percentage of gun owner's per capita who would shoot or kill someone rises to near 5.5%. But then this doesn't account for multiple shootings by one individual so the 5% would be lower, perhaps 2% - 3%. Not that high but dramatically higher than your 0.1% figure. http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/math/Exponent_Calculator.htm
Considering 'illicit' use of firearms, over the course of a gun owner's life this percentage would increase dramatically, due to accident shootings whether with or without consequence; shooting at property like stop signs & lights; brandishing; reported & unreported violent crimes with guns; myriad of misdemeanor offenses; - the percentage would likely be from 20 to 40% of gun owners illicitly using any of their firearms over the course of their lifetimes.
So beevul, is it the 20% to 40% (imo) of those gun owners who illicitly will use firearms over the course of their lifetimes that we should focus on with preventative laws? or should we leave them 'the hell alone'?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=181601
Your sig line reminds me of this dated gun factoid from 'just facts', tho it's a different argument: just facts: "About 99.8% of firearms and more than 99.6% of handguns will not be used to commit violent crimes in any given year."
Reason for elimination: This statistic neglects key information such as the number of guns in the U.S. Thus, it can create a misleading impression, given that, in 2008, roughly 436,000 violent crimes were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.fourexamples.asp