Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: The most effective and most often used murder weapon [View all]jimmy the one
(2,717 posts)I wrote: So your premise is invalid, since gun owners over the course of their lifetimes, are involved in shooting or killing someone far more than what you contend.
beevul replied: Are they now? 2/3 of those who kill with a firearm generally kill only once. That pretty much destroys your line of reasoning. My premise leaves wiggle room to be off by minimum of a factor of 3 from known statistics, and still be correct.
No you don't destroy my line of reasoning, since you altered my original premise and created a rebuttal to your own faulty reconstruction.
There are approx 30,000 gundeaths in america in a year, with approx 80 million gun owners. I was not speaking of individual gun owners killing more than once, tho this of course happens 1/3 the time presuming your figures are correct. Even if 30,000 gun owners per year for 75 years were to shoot someone, this would amount to over 2 million gun owners out of 80 million, or about 3%, much higher than your 0.1%..
I was referring to the 80 million gun owners in general who, according to your false premise: do not kill or shoot someone 99.9% of the time. They in fact do shoot or kill more than 0.1% of the time over the course of their lifetimes. In other words, if you could take a current snapshot of all gun owners, highlighting those who have shot anyone in their lifetimes, not just the past year, the figure would be higher than 0.1%.
This is proven by this sentence from the very post you replied to, which you conveniently overlook in your attempt to alter what I was contending:
I wrote to beevul in same post: When you take your 99.9% over the course of a gun owner's lifetime of 75 years, the pure percentage of gun owners per capita who would shoot or kill someone rises to near 5.5%.
Since I wrote 'per capita' over over the past 75 years, this establishes that you manipulated what I wrote.
beevul: You 'witted' me? Sorry buddy, but no. You talk a big game to the skilled swimmers, from the shallow end of the pool.
Yeah, I witted you back in november, & I'm witting you once again in march 2016 that your signature line is a BIG FAT LIE.