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jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
42. simple explanation
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

beevul: You cannot validly claim that is true over time, just because it is approximately true for one year.
Put your money where your big mouth is and cite 1 year in the last 30 in which it wasn't true.


tortoise: The numbers as stated in the post .. come out to around 0.1% of gun owners killing someone in their lifetime.

I think I have a way to explain this. I feel remiss for not having thought of it sooner.

beevul's signature line: 99.9 percent of gun owners do not shoot or kill anyone. Focus on the .1 percent who misuse guns, and leave the rest of us who don't, and our guns, the hell alone. Member of the 99.9 percent.

If we go with 100,000,000 (100 million) gun owners, 0.1% of them = 100,000. So beevul's current premise is that 0.1%, or approx 100,000 gun owners, do not shoot or kill anyone, ever, in their lifetimes. His figures are indeed borne out close enough to a one year crime report on gunshot injury by shooting or killing. Remember that is for one year only.
So, in the year we are in, 2016, we can estimate that 100,000 gun owners will shoot or kill someone this year.
However, beevul & tortoise claims fall apart, since it assumes that none of the other 99.9 million gun owners alive in 2016 have EVER SHOT OR KILLED ANYONE in their past lives.
Which is utterly ridiculous & unsustainable to the both of youse.
Obviously you are wrong. Readers can see how wrong you are now. Such a simple solution.

As readers can see, beevul's signature line is contending that 99.9% of all gun owners in existence during the year 2016, have not shot anyone. This is untrue.
The true percentage of gun owners over a drop back period up to 75 years as stated previous, will not conform to the pure statistical result of approx 5% - raising 99.9% to the nth degree where n = number of years in dropback, due to a complex input involving inter alia gun owner death, recidivism, gun owner & population growth, but it will be far more than 0.1% which beevul's sig line contends.
Beevul needs edit his signature line to read 'for one year only'.

Oh look, a picture of the Second Amendment. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #1
And yet 99.9x percent of guns aren't used in murders. N/T beevul Feb 2016 #2
But you know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #7
Invalid Premises Galore jimmy the one Mar 2016 #18
If you spouted anything else, we might go into shock. beevul Mar 2016 #22
to wit jimmy the one Mar 2016 #24
LOL. THATS your gambit? beevul Mar 2016 #25
resident eevul jimmy the one Mar 2016 #32
Jimmy the wesker? beevul Mar 2016 #34
armed robbery is not misusing a gun? jimmy the one Mar 2016 #35
Are you claiming I said that? beevul Mar 2016 #36
quintuple counting jimmy the one Mar 2016 #37
Says you. beevul Mar 2016 #38
you flunked the quiz jimmy the one Mar 2016 #39
Again, says you. beevul Mar 2016 #40
altered figures do not refute anything jimmy the one Apr 2016 #43
Hah. beevul Apr 2016 #47
As usual, you twist facts to suit your fanciful imagination tortoise1956 Mar 2016 #30
sleeping dogs should stay asleep jimmy the one Mar 2016 #33
Oh, you wound me... tortoise1956 Apr 2016 #41
simple explanation jimmy the one Apr 2016 #42
don't go apoplectic due another error jimmy the one Apr 2016 #44
It's empty underpants Feb 2016 #3
Not necessarily tortoise1956 Mar 2016 #31
and it's obviously aroused Fairgo Feb 2016 #4
Apologies accepted, but you should seek treatment for that case of Markley's Syndrome: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2016 #5
Umm ... no. Straw Man Feb 2016 #8
funny looking AR-15 Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #6
A SIG? Really? Straw Man Feb 2016 #9
Actually, the Wright/Rossi prison survey demonstrated that pablo_marmol Feb 2016 #10
Yeah, but ... Straw Man Feb 2016 #11
Especially a single action sig...you can buy 2 plastic striker junkers for that one sig. ileus Feb 2016 #13
Like a Taurus for example. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #28
That was my thought. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #26
Mine are life saving devices...and some of them are beautiful. ileus Feb 2016 #12
Like a fire extinguisher? nt Logical Feb 2016 #16
Fire extinguishers do not make good weapons GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #20
No, the gun wackos love to say a gun is just a tool, like a fire extinguisher, which is BS. nt Logical Mar 2016 #21
Tool- "a device or implement...used to carry out a particular function" friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #29
Which is why we need to ban rifles with pistol grips krispos42 Feb 2016 #14
also be most effective anti murder weapon... ileus Feb 2016 #15
If handguns were used in less than 200 murders a year nationwide, benEzra Feb 2016 #17
Not really a Sig Sauer fan myself doggie breath Mar 2016 #19
I don't know my Sig 220 and 229 have never harmed anyone/thing either. ??? ileus Mar 2016 #23
Well technically no, but OK as an exemplar, in one way at least I guess whatthehey Mar 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #45
Sure - as a variant of a very common firearm most used in homicides whatthehey Apr 2016 #46
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