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DonP

(6,185 posts)
41. Let me help you out here
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

Two things in that post.

First, I was pointing out the common hypocrisy of gun control fans that rant online, but never quite get around to ever doing anything in the real world. They seem to be too cheap to reach for their checkbooks to pay dues, or do much besides hitting "like" on a gun control facebook page and most of them don't even bother to do that, after all 1%er racist Bloomberg is funding gun control at $50 million a year. So they really don't need your $20, right?

Other than 2 or 3 paid Bloomberg employees, the people that keep telling us how much "they care" can't seem to find the time to take time off work or use their vacation days to meet with legislators or show up for the town halls and zoning meetings where the gun owners always show up.

So, how many days of your own time and your own money have you used to show how "bad you feel" abut gun accidents and violence in the past year?

Gun control is the online version of a paper tiger. It's easy and cheap to talk a good game online. You don't even have to get off the couch. But that cheap, lazy and feckless attitude is why gun control has become a rich man's hobby, with no grass roots element.

You see, gun owners actually do things in the real world. We spend our own money on our hobby and supporting the 2nd amendment. We pay dues to different organizations from the ISRA to the NRA to the Pink Pistols. Tomorrow 10,000 Illinois gun owners will take time off work and drive themselves to the state capitol for the 10th year in a row at I-GOLD (Illinois Gun Owners Lobby Day). We'll meet in small groups with our legislators and fill the main streets outside the capitol with our march. We'll walk in with their voting record on 2nd amendment issues in our pocket, if not memorized, and also make sure they know that we vote like clockwork and so do our families and friends.

We care about firearm accidents too, except we actually do something about it, that's why we teach people to buy trigger locks and safes and teach people about safe storage and the 4 safety rules. How about an example or two of what the prominent "Gun Safety" groups like Everytown, MDA or Brady actually do for Gun Safety?

Second, I thought the fire extinguisher, seat belts, helmet and firearm examples were fairly simple examples. Obviously a little too complex . They are all pieces of equipment I have available and know how to use for unlikely situations that, without them, might have dire consequences. It's called being prepared, as opposed to being smug.

That's the difference between the "Gun Control Movement" and the pro 2nd people. One's real the other is pretend.

This cannot be counted as a defensive gun use GreydeeThos Apr 2016 #1
Logical circle jerk. mikeysnot Apr 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #3
There is no "(alleged) relative infrequency" it is a mathematical infrequency. Cannot be argued. MillennialDem Apr 2016 #12
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How about this statistic MillennialDem Apr 2016 #16
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I'm not sure what you mean by "recruiting stations"? Military? But would I volunteer to MillennialDem Apr 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #20
Armor (as in armored vehicles). If they'd let this old girl in at this point. MillennialDem Apr 2016 #21
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Easy, if the muppet refuses to come out, leave but throw a GPS on their car and figure out their MillennialDem Apr 2016 #25
Funny how somebody claiming to be progressive loves the idea of a police state so much DonP Apr 2016 #37
Nah, I just rely on not being perpetually scared my whole life. I feel bad for children of gunners MillennialDem Apr 2016 #38
Sure you do DonP Apr 2016 #39
Not even sure if you're saying I go to gun control meetings and mock me for that, or if you're MillennialDem Apr 2016 #40
Let me help you out here DonP Apr 2016 #41
I do better than that MillennialDem Apr 2016 #42
Good lord, please stop using the discredited Kellerman study! DonP Apr 2016 #43
The problem is MillennialDem Apr 2016 #44
Thats an opinion, and one not very well grounded in reality. beevul Apr 2016 #45
So, bottom line, you're just another online whiner about guns DonP Apr 2016 #46
Who is a moron? Marengo Apr 2016 #49
"Muppet"? What is this "muppet" you speak of? Marengo Apr 2016 #48
Your "facts" are disingenuous... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #32
1. Defensive gun use has never been falsifiably studied and 2. It doesn't include MillennialDem Apr 2016 #34
Ah, the anticipated "Self Defense Denier" arrives, spews and departs DonP Apr 2016 #4
Few deny that some guns are used in self defense. The problem is more people die from gun MillennialDem Apr 2016 #13
An accurate scientific study is not possible, it will always be an "estimate" DonP Apr 2016 #15
You could do a scientific study. It would be costly, but it could be done. I also never said the CDC MillennialDem Apr 2016 #17
So, how do you propose to scientifically study "unreported incidents"? DonP Apr 2016 #23
Cameras on people with guns and without guns... MillennialDem Apr 2016 #24
Yeah, that whole 5th amendment thing is over rated too. DonP Apr 2016 #26
They would obviously be volunteering. MillennialDem Apr 2016 #27
Are you suggesting that people under surveillance... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #28
If you want to go by justified gun uses, you're going to pull your gun regardless of whether MillennialDem Apr 2016 #29
Unless you propose making a body cam mandatory... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #30
I think if you sweeten the pot with a money for participation in the study you're MillennialDem Apr 2016 #31
People being watched act differently than those not watched. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #33
If you have to justifiably pull a gun, you should do it. It might cut down on the MillennialDem Apr 2016 #35
Agreed, you should. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #36
And I thought it would be difficult to top safe rooms constructed with derelict refrigerators... Marengo Apr 2016 #47
K&R discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #5
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That's why I included that last paragraph DonP Apr 2016 #7
Guns protecting lives....now that's how it's supposed to be. ileus Apr 2016 #8
Hate he had to shoot someone TeddyR Apr 2016 #9
Shot in the shoulder and leg shadowrider Apr 2016 #10
Also interesting that the neighbor reported hearing about 13 shots TeddyR Apr 2016 #11
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