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MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
4. is there any thought to the fact that it would have been far worse without gun control
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:24 AM
Apr 2016

are other variables included?

We had gun control long before 1997. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #1
very true, gejohnston Apr 2016 #3
I think you have a logical fallacy... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #7
the start of their laws was about 1920 gejohnston Apr 2016 #9
I also don't trust murder rates from earlier years. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #12
the UK has kept their murder statistics since 1920 gejohnston Apr 2016 #14
The point of the article was only the gun sales. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #16
post hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston Apr 2016 #17
We all know gun statics are slanted. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #19
Let's compare countries with stricter gun laws than the UK, gejohnston Apr 2016 #20
I don't trust your figures. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #10
We don't either, and the numbers are from your home office gejohnston Apr 2016 #13
Figures from any source can be manipulated. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #15
the FBI definition of mass murder is gejohnston Apr 2016 #18
We don't have mass shootings. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #22
You didn't have any before either, so gejohnston Apr 2016 #26
You desperately need to grip hold of a gun don't you? Bad Dog Apr 2016 #29
Whats with you anti-gunners and the personal attacks? beevul Apr 2016 #31
Insecure and penis envy? DonP Apr 2016 #33
Just pointing out the motivation. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #38
How would you know, are you carnac? beevul Apr 2016 #41
That's what I'm doing with this thread. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #42
Bull. beevul Apr 2016 #43
less than five seconds gejohnston Apr 2016 #34
Places such as NYC, DC and LA... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #6
That tight control is meaningless, Bad Dog Apr 2016 #8
criminals don't buy their guns from licensed dealers or gun shows gejohnston Apr 2016 #11
Mass shooters tend to acquire their firearms legally. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #24
rampage killers often don't use guns gejohnston Apr 2016 #27
None of which changes anything. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #28
do you have anything better than a simplistic statement and a logical fallacy? gejohnston Apr 2016 #35
I have a lot better thing to do than waste time on this. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #37
in other words, I was correct gejohnston Apr 2016 #40
Are you aware... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #45
They are not. Furthermore, they fantasize about shooting people: friendly_iconoclast Apr 2016 #46
Are you aware.. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #49
Are you aware... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #50
Sure you are. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #51
Agreed, gun-control is meaningless discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #21
I see that comment shot over your head. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #23
Border control... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #25
You didn't think of that because it's flaming obvious. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #30
You know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #32
Heheheh.... Puha Ekapi Apr 2016 #36
The areas of your country with supposed better gun control aren't getting them from Mexico. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #39
The truth is you brought up the issue of border control... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #44
I don't want to do anything to your country. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #52
re: "I don't want to do anything to your country." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #53
Nothing that you'd listen to. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #54
Which is???? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #55
Sensible gun control. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #56
Since "Sensible gun control." is about as definitive as... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #57
Like what we have. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #58
Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #59
I wasn't being obscure. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #60
I didn't think you were. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #61
You could ban politicians from voting on vested interests. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #62
Campaign finance reform is a popular topic discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #63
Don't get me wrong, it's bad over here. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #64
Wont do much in this case. beevul Apr 2016 #65
Well, if Texas has better border control, Oklahoma has to pay for it. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #47
1999-2005 Califonz Apr 2016 #2
is there any thought to the fact that it would have been far worse without gun control MariaThinks Apr 2016 #4
no, gejohnston Apr 2016 #5
I've noticed over the years how homicide rates around the world have dropped starting in the 90s... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #48
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