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In reply to the discussion: Gun Control Fails: What Happened in England, Ireland, and Canada [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)34. less than five seconds
granted, I knew about Ms. Moss for a couple of years. For every one person murdered with a gun in the US, two die of heroin overdose. It doesn't matter where you are in the world, even Japan and Australia, if you can get a bag of pot or heroin, you can get a gun.
I'm not going to waste time with you while you try to justify your rather pathetic need to carry a firearm.
Give my state's very liberal gun laws, most people own guns, and the last homicide was eight months ago. My county hasn't had a firearms related homicide since 1982. The two homicides since then has been some piss poor mom beating her infant to death. The one before that, over thirty years ago, was a stabbing. Some junkie on PCP thought a high school girl was deer from outer space, at least that is the claim he made in court. That said, one thing authoritarians don't get is that I don't have to justify anything to you or anyone else. It is up to those seeking the added restrictions justify to us the need for restriction and that those restrictions will have the desired effect, preferably using facts and evidence. That has never happened. I have yet to find any gun, pot, gay marriage prohibitionist come up with a single fact based argument free of logical fallacies. Not one.
BTW, you failed to provide a single shred of evidence that the graph, with information provided by your police, is wrong. I'll provide some possible evidence here.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-25002927
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
Oh wait.
The incident took place at around 11:00 p.m. local time (0400 GMT) at the end of the prom, with multiple gunshots heard in the school building.
Unless it is gang related, these incidents are quite rare. Most of our murder victims are black. If you are white, not a member or associate of a gang, or doing somebody else's spouse, your chances of being murdered are lower here than there.Edit history
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Gun Control Fails: What Happened in England, Ireland, and Canada [View all]
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Apr 2016
OP
do you have anything better than a simplistic statement and a logical fallacy?
gejohnston
Apr 2016
#35
The areas of your country with supposed better gun control aren't getting them from Mexico.
Bad Dog
Apr 2016
#39
is there any thought to the fact that it would have been far worse without gun control
MariaThinks
Apr 2016
#4