Gun Control & RKBA

Well I guess we may have started off with this subject without stating simple ground rules.
- all opinions are too be taken seriously and vetted out with discussion - hopefully with a solution in hand.
- although someone may feel strongly about a certain subject, we should refrain from name calling and ignoring each other.
- solution based strategy - if we agree there is a problem, can we agree on finding a solution?
This is just a simple list of how I prefer to discuss any subject, right or wrong.

Absence of a law to control private gun sales aka background checks (loopholes as I have mistakenly named it).
There is no law over these sales.
Do you agree that this needs to be addressed?

ATF (thank you for correcting my bad acronym)
Alot of Tea Party people are Pro Guns - yet they like to cut programs designed to help police the guns. Why?
If you are a Dem and Pro-Gun, then do you agree we should spend more money on the ATF? Other programs?

You posted several links to DU posts from 2 years ago, regarding "no one is taking our guns"
That's it - nothing else to take away here.....You support a pro-gun platform, no problem.

People do kill people.
Yes we try to convict and send killers to jail but what do we do to stop them from getting the gun in the first place?
Not much.
I hope you are not saying its ok for "other" people to kill each other as long as you have your gun in your safe cul de sac.

I hope we can at least move towards a rational proposal to limit access to guns from people who cannot safely operate one.
Agree?