Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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20. "Clearly depressed"? Puh-leeze.

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:50 AM

Apr 2016

John shows signs of clinical depression but everybody is willing to offer him the preferred method of male suicide.

He does? Are you a mental health professional? Is your hypothetical official a mental health professional? Is everyone who is somewhat withdrawn given a diagnosis of clinical depression in your little world?

Bill not only has indications of intended suicide but also has an estranged wife who took the kids with her so he also has a motive for domestic violence yet every gungeon dweller responding would gladly offer him the method to go along with his motive.

What indications are those? You are advocating the denial of a fundamental right to everyone who is experiencing setbacks in life. There is no -- repeat, NO -- overt indication that either of these men is suicidal or homicidal. Your entire premise is absolute bullshit.

If either of these hypothetical applicants already owned firearms, what would you suggest as a course of action? Confiscation? "Somebody thinks you might be dangerous" -- not exactly due process, is it?

Great work guys.

Thanks. Glad we could clear that up for you. The next time you want to craft a cockamamie "gotcha" scenario, I suggest that you construct it a bit more carefully.

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Another question for Gungeon dwellers. [View all] flamin lib Apr 2016 OP

Yes. And yes. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #1

Yes and yes. hack89 Apr 2016 #2

Demarcus Smith is black and just moved into town from Chicago hack89 Apr 2016 #3

There are all kinds of arguments you could have used Android3.14 Apr 2016 #4

Ditto for your response. nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #5

His response was perfectly appropriate. OP *FAIL*. pablo_marmol Apr 2016 #15

Yes, selling guns to people who are clearly depressed does say it all. flamin lib Apr 2016 #16

Gotcha - Your pretend scenarios also include pretend reasons for LEOs jmg257 Apr 2016 #17

Why can't we just have the police take John and Bill into custody until they get better? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #18

"Clearly depressed"? Puh-leeze. Straw Man Apr 2016 #20

I used the clinical description of depression to describe John. flamin lib Apr 2016 #21

You're going to have to cite that for us. Straw Man Apr 2016 #22

No, I don't. flamin lib Apr 2016 #24

No cite? OK. Assertion dismissed. Straw Man Apr 2016 #29

"No, I don't." pablo_marmol Apr 2016 #35

"...any entry level psychology test." Seems like all that's used to be an expert on DU! Eleanors38 May 2016 #47

Tell that to all those nice older folks who enjoy going to the range down in FLA. jmg257 Apr 2016 #23

I'm really tired of the deflection. Have a nice life. n flamin lib Apr 2016 #25

You start an OP with carefully crafted scenarios; then, when people question your OP Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #27

Calling every counterargument a "deflection" is a deflection. Straw Man Apr 2016 #30

Deflection? They were YOUR pretend scenarios...and you don't agree with the hypothetical answers jmg257 Apr 2016 #31

Our Uncle Ruckus* expects deference as our (self-proclaimed) moral and intellectual superior... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2016 #32

"You are your own worst enemy." pablo_marmol Apr 2016 #34

You must have used the gun confiscation version of the description. beardown Apr 2016 #37

You could decrease the number potentially causing human grief by at least 10 at last reckoning... Marengo May 2016 #51

Then you must support the police taking John into custody against his will, without a crime Giggity May 2016 #53

"Great work guys." pablo_marmol Apr 2016 #36

A Men's Rights Advocate is offended a woman wants a gun permit because she claims her ex Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2016 #6

A woman applies for a permit sarisataka Apr 2016 #7

Ah yes, "PreCrime." Straw Man Apr 2016 #8

Yes. Yes. jmg257 Apr 2016 #9

This is the conflict between melm00se Apr 2016 #10

Around here we also dealt DashOneBravo Apr 2016 #19

Justice needs to be blind discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #11

Yes2. However, I might refuse sales to 3 guys wanting muzzle loaders and who go to my range. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #12

Your post is a good example of why "shall-issue" laws have proven necessary, and here's why. benEzra Apr 2016 #13

Guns are therapeutic, nothing cures the blues quicker. ileus Apr 2016 #14

Another scenario ymetca Apr 2016 #26

Finally a sane reply! nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #28

"John is offered free marijuana" beergood Apr 2016 #38

So sorry ymetca May 2016 #48

Posts like yours are why I actively advocate Kang Colby Apr 2016 #33

I made good on my promise a few weeks ago. Kang Colby May 2016 #52

If you want to slash treatment for depression by 30-40%, benEzra May 2016 #39

I'd never issue a permit regardless Matrosov May 2016 #40

Which is why we need to enact TeddyR May 2016 #41

That 14th Amendment sarisataka May 2016 #42

So, what are your thoughts on Kim Davis? SQUEE May 2016 #43

Don't expect an answer- that sort tend to flee when their hypocrisy is pointed out... friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #45

How about you move to another country where infringing is A-OK... beevul May 2016 #44

"I'd never issue a permit regardless" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #46

"Police do not issue licenses to carry for any reason in most (all?) jurisdictions." pablo_marmol May 2016 #50

I think you are the one who needs to move... Marengo May 2016 #49