Gun Control & RKBA

beevul

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65. Wont do much in this case.

Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:59 PM

Apr 2016

Its the 5-7 million member voters and easily 25+ million supporters ranging from lukewarm to rabid, that give the nra its power.

And theres the matter of their favorability, with mainstream America:

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&site=&source=hp&q=nra+favorability&oq=nra+favorability&gs_l=hp.3..0.1373.5580.0.5673.18.11.1.6.7.0.137.1241.0j11.11.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..0.18.1257...5j0i131j0i155i3j0i22i30.7yMqlbiiVbs

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Gun Control Fails: What Happened in England, Ireland, and Canada [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 OP

We had gun control long before 1997. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #1

very true, gejohnston Apr 2016 #3

I think you have a logical fallacy... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #7

the start of their laws was about 1920 gejohnston Apr 2016 #9

I also don't trust murder rates from earlier years. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #12

the UK has kept their murder statistics since 1920 gejohnston Apr 2016 #14

The point of the article was only the gun sales. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #16

post hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston Apr 2016 #17

We all know gun statics are slanted. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #19

Let's compare countries with stricter gun laws than the UK, gejohnston Apr 2016 #20

I don't trust your figures. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #10

We don't either, and the numbers are from your home office gejohnston Apr 2016 #13

Figures from any source can be manipulated. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #15

the FBI definition of mass murder is gejohnston Apr 2016 #18

We don't have mass shootings. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #22

You didn't have any before either, so gejohnston Apr 2016 #26

You desperately need to grip hold of a gun don't you? Bad Dog Apr 2016 #29

Whats with you anti-gunners and the personal attacks? beevul Apr 2016 #31

Insecure and penis envy? DonP Apr 2016 #33

Just pointing out the motivation. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #38

How would you know, are you carnac? beevul Apr 2016 #41

That's what I'm doing with this thread. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #42

Bull. beevul Apr 2016 #43

less than five seconds gejohnston Apr 2016 #34

Places such as NYC, DC and LA... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #6

That tight control is meaningless, Bad Dog Apr 2016 #8

criminals don't buy their guns from licensed dealers or gun shows gejohnston Apr 2016 #11

Mass shooters tend to acquire their firearms legally. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #24

rampage killers often don't use guns gejohnston Apr 2016 #27

None of which changes anything. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #28

do you have anything better than a simplistic statement and a logical fallacy? gejohnston Apr 2016 #35

I have a lot better thing to do than waste time on this. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #37

in other words, I was correct gejohnston Apr 2016 #40

Are you aware... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #45

They are not. Furthermore, they fantasize about shooting people: friendly_iconoclast Apr 2016 #46

Are you aware.. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #49

Are you aware... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #50

Sure you are. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #51

Agreed, gun-control is meaningless discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #21

I see that comment shot over your head. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #23

Border control... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #25

You didn't think of that because it's flaming obvious. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #30

You know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #32

Heheheh.... Puha Ekapi Apr 2016 #36

The areas of your country with supposed better gun control aren't getting them from Mexico. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #39

The truth is you brought up the issue of border control... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #44

I don't want to do anything to your country. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #52

re: "I don't want to do anything to your country." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #53

Nothing that you'd listen to. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #54

Which is???? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #55

Sensible gun control. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #56

Since "Sensible gun control." is about as definitive as... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #57

Like what we have. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #58

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #59

I wasn't being obscure. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #60

I didn't think you were. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #61

You could ban politicians from voting on vested interests. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #62

Campaign finance reform is a popular topic discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2016 #63

Don't get me wrong, it's bad over here. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #64

Wont do much in this case. beevul Apr 2016 #65

Well, if Texas has better border control, Oklahoma has to pay for it. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #47

1999-2005 Califonz Apr 2016 #2

is there any thought to the fact that it would have been far worse without gun control MariaThinks Apr 2016 #4

no, gejohnston Apr 2016 #5

I've noticed over the years how homicide rates around the world have dropped starting in the 90s... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #48