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SecularMotion

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15. Did you even read the linked article or did you just read the excerpt??
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016
Reason #1: Five or Six chambers instead of one …

An auto pistol has one chamber attached to one barrel. A revolver has one barrel and 5 or 6 individual chambers that have to line up precisely with the barrel in order for it to fire. If due to wear and tear or whatever else, these chambers are off by even a thousandth of an inch, a bullet could shave off a forcing cone or misalign with the firing pin and you’ll get misfires.

In other words, revolvers require tighter tolerances by nature of their multiple chambers … and … tighter tolerances mean they are more failure prone by design.

Reason #2: More parts = More chances for something to go wrong

In addition to the 5 or 6 chambers that have to precisely line up with the barrel each and every trigger pull, the internals of the revolver are no laughing matter. If you crack it open and look inside, it’s like looking at the inside of a watch.

turn on images to see revolver internals

And like a watch, there are plenty of opportunities for these interacting parts to malfunction or get “out of time” causing failure. Compare that to a modern semi auto pistol like the Glock with only 34 component parts (the smaller number of parts reduces potential for technical problems because there are less chances for something to go wrong).

Reason #3: Most Revolver Failures to Fire are “Jams” Not “Malfunctions”

Let’s define our terms:

JAM - a serious stoppage that normally involves a broken part or something of that nature that would require tools to fix.

MALFUNCTION - some interruption of the firing cycle that can be remedied simply and/or quickly.

When the primary reason for a failure to fire, 100 years ago, was bad ammo — the revolver was reliable because you just had to pull the trigger again.

Now days, ammunition is more reliable so let’s look at what else could go wrong with a revolver. These are ALL reasons that a revolver could fail to fire:

*** Excessive fouling under the extractor star can lock up a cylinder (it won’t turn, won’t rotate to the next round).

*** Recoil can cause bullets to wiggle their way out of the shell casing which can also prevent the cylinder from rotating.

*** Cylinder won’t open for a number of reasons (you can’t reload)

*** The ejector rod can work itself loose and cylinder won’t turn.

*** A grain of gun powder can work itself under the extractor star and the cylinder won’t turn

*** Ejector rod is bent (because it was hit wrong during a reload under stress) and the cylinder won’t turn

*** High primer in one of the 5 or 6 cartridges keeps cylinder from turning

*** During reloading you can get incomplete extraction and cases stuck under the extractor.

*** Taurus or S&W “internal lock” has spontaneously engaged and the gun won’t fire

*** Strain screw in front strap of grip can loosen over time, if it backs out enough, the firing pin strike will be too light and won’t ignite primers — failure to fire.

And almost ALL of these are very, very hard to fix in a fight. In fact, it’s practically impossible. They are true “jams” that require tools to fix.
Great ideas, but the tech is not there yet. ManiacJoe May 2016 #1
Yes, the tech is there and mouthing gun propaganda doesn't change that fact. nt flamin lib May 2016 #24
Where? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #29
Armitex and Mossberg. Google ks your friend, educate yourself. nt flamin lib May 2016 #31
I don't own a shotgun. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #32
Ya know, Google is your friend. Please educate yourself and stop wasting bandwidth. nt flamin lib May 2016 #34
There is nothing viable on the market. Straw Man May 2016 #35
There is nothing on the market because gun nuts issue death threats to anyone who puts a smart gun flamin lib May 2016 #37
On the Mossberg website.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #39
And you might fotget to load your gun. If this, if that, if frogs had wings they wouldnt flamin lib May 2016 #41
I just do not see.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #42
Funny ... Straw Man May 2016 #44
Love these guys.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #36
Yeah, and your car won't start with a dead battery either. Only thing is your car won't give flamin lib May 2016 #38
Does the gun come with jumper cables? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #40
You know what? I'm fucking done with your willful ignorance. You have just been put on ignore with flamin lib May 2016 #43
I see ... Straw Man May 2016 #48
Obviously, the poster named "reality" is at the top of your list. beevul May 2016 #50
Don't you want to hang around and discuss your fraudulent endorsement of the 'electro-Mossberg'?: friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #51
As I've told you before ... Straw Man May 2016 #45
Don't bother... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #46
I love the simple approach. ManiacJoe May 2016 #57
Makes sense, therefore I dont expect NRA to approve. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #2
Why would the NRA.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #17
When the President's security detail starts using them maybe I'll consider Press Virginia May 2016 #3
What happens if.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #4
What happens if your gun jams? SecularMotion May 2016 #5
Revolvers don't jam. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #6
Revolvers Don’t Jam…And Other Firearms Myths SecularMotion May 2016 #7
The article goes on to mention that... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #8
It can still jam or malfunction just like any other firearm SecularMotion May 2016 #9
How? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #10
Here's a breakdown of the ways a revolver may jam or malfunction SecularMotion May 2016 #11
That article is written in support... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #13
Did you even read the linked article or did you just read the excerpt?? SecularMotion May 2016 #15
If you actually read this stuff.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #16
I think it's funny ... Straw Man May 2016 #18
Thank you. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #19
Buy an M&P Shield and you'll never have to worry about that. ileus May 2016 #20
Besides, if you are in a high risk situation.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #14
OK, I will answer my own question. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #12
That's why one is none, and two is one. ileus May 2016 #21
Nothing. It functions as designed. nt flamin lib May 2016 #25
So you are promising... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #28
The Mossberg does exist and has been proven when wet, wen soaked in oil, when covered in mud and flamin lib May 2016 #30
"When are you going to...stop regurgitating the propaganda the gun maker(s) feed you?": friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #53
Has a test been done Duckhunter935 May 2016 #55
KISS. Kept It Simple Stupid beardown May 2016 #22
Water alway f's up electronics. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #23
a real drag is having the electric window malfunction when it gejohnston May 2016 #27
ever have electric windows malfunction during a rain storm? gejohnston May 2016 #26
Does your truck have air bags, seat belts, anti lock brakes and crumple zones? nt flamin lib May 2016 #33
And yet a $40,000+ truck with abundant onboard power, unlimited room for electronics, benEzra May 2016 #58
My point is that all those things I mentioned, which the truck has, flamin lib May 2016 #60
Want a smart gun? Develop one. This is one of the most unregulated economies... Eleanors38 May 2016 #47
Smart guns................ yeah, great idea discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #49
I won't support any "smart gun" law that EXEMPTS police. davepc May 2016 #52
If you need to have a 'smart gun' fixed.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #54
How difficult would it be.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #56
Or a master key. N/T beevul May 2016 #59
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