Gun Control & RKBA

EdwardBernays

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1. Kinda so what?

Sun May 8, 2016, 05:24 PM

May 2016

Comparing something awful to something less awful means what exactly?

The US has a high murder rate, and obscene amount of gun violence and a bizarre obsession with guns.

None of that is made better by the fact that some of it used to be worse.

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We Are More Afraid Than Ever of Gun Violence, But the Truth Is the Murder Rate Is at a 50-Year Low [View all] Kang Colby May 2016 OP

Kinda so what? EdwardBernays May 2016 #1

Generally speaking, gun murders are 50% lower with many more guns in civilian circulation. Kang Colby May 2016 #2

Here's the thing EdwardBernays May 2016 #5

Japan has almost no private gun ownership TeddyR May 2016 #6

yes and? EdwardBernays May 2016 #9

Since Japan contradicted your point? TeddyR May 2016 #14

False. Kang Colby May 2016 #12

we really don't gejohnston May 2016 #3

There you go, bringing facts into the discussion. theatre goon May 2016 #4

those weren't facts EdwardBernays May 2016 #8

Oh, I'm sorry... theatre goon May 2016 #10

Use Google EdwardBernays May 2016 #11

Actually, they were speculation. Straw Man May 2016 #41

When they don't have an answer to what was actually stated... theatre goon May 2016 #43

not true EdwardBernays May 2016 #7

Please. Kang Colby May 2016 #13

Are you saying Jews with guns would have stopped the 'final solution'? angstlessk May 2016 #16

No, but gun ownership would have made it more difficult...in my opinion. Lives would have been saved Kang Colby May 2016 #17

A few guns against the government is suicide...what lives would have been saved? angstlessk May 2016 #18

Tell that to the Viet Cong, Afghans, or dozens of other groups throughout history. Kang Colby May 2016 #22

Are you proposing insurrection of the US? angstlessk May 2016 #23

No. Kang Colby May 2016 #24

No I have read Howard Zinn's History of the United States angstlessk May 2016 #25

Sadly, I'm unfamiliar with Howard Zinn. I might have to check out his books sometime. Kang Colby May 2016 #26

I have audio.com and have gifted Howard Zinns book to many angstlessk May 2016 #28

That sounds great. Thank you for the offer. n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #35

1200 saved by the Bielski group. Straw Man May 2016 #40

Defiance CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #47

The wisdom of Tuvia discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #48

Seems the US has a murder problem TeddyR May 2016 #15

Murder by gun problem angstlessk May 2016 #20

unknown, however gejohnston May 2016 #32

There are stories almost daily TeddyR May 2016 #46

Three times as many people are murdered each year with knives... benEzra May 2016 #59

How many of those states have a rate that... beevul May 2016 #21

Ahhh EdwardBernays May 2016 #42

Yes, assume actions on the part of people who don't even exist, and we'll get somewhere. beevul May 2016 #53

Well EdwardBernays May 2016 #54

I wasn't "saying" anything. I was ASKING... beevul May 2016 #55

I assume EdwardBernays May 2016 #56

So many misconceptions ... Straw Man May 2016 #57

Yes. You do. beevul May 2016 #58

I will give you credit for rubbing the surface, gejohnston May 2016 #31

"a bizarre obsession with guns" says more about you than it does anyone else. N/T beevul May 2016 #19

"Kinda so what?" How mediocre and unimaginative. We have big improvement, but... Eleanors38 May 2016 #50

Not when it's your child Iliyah May 2016 #27

The U.S. is much safer today than any point within the last fifty years. Kang Colby May 2016 #30

I'm still mad Iliyah May 2016 #33

Why? Kang Colby May 2016 #34

Respectfully, the causes of ALL crime and homicides should be studied more... Eleanors38 May 2016 #49

"would put our murder rate on par with Denmark or Australia" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #29

Some food for thought. I think it is interesting that when Americans are led to believe violence doc03 May 2016 #36

I don't think it is the same population gejohnston May 2016 #37

Well I guess I have to spell it out the firearms industry's biggest doc03 May 2016 #38

no they are not. gejohnston May 2016 #39

You can't tell me the NRA doesn't promote the violence is out of control doc03 May 2016 #44

I haven't seen any such claims gejohnston May 2016 #45

Except it isn't! scscholar May 2016 #51

Please tell me, especially with your handle, that this is sarcasm whatthehey May 2016 #52