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EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
56. I assume
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

You know what a rhetorical question is? Note that question mark <<<

So now you were just asking random questions?

Well the answer to your question is no.

The combined population of over half the United States and with a murder rate that averaged to more than the national average is not some trick or the light or slight of hand. America is a very dangerous place. Come live in Europe for a few years and your questions will be answered.

Put it a different way - all over Europe - a continent with more people than America - kids are safe enough to walk to and from school. Most kids literally have never even seen a shooting on the news. It's a nonexistent problem. The same goes for knives. There's basically no threat to anyone aside from things like robbery and mugging. And that threat is usually pretty low. Most people I know wouldn't be scared to leave their car unlocked on the street or their front door unlocked all day. My kids literally have never even heard of a school shooting. How far back in time would you have to go in America to achieve that? I went through metal detectors in High School in the early 90s. Kids in my high school were shot. That was just life. Not here. Kids walk home for lunch. Kids ride the bus into town by themselves. No one is scared of cops shooting them. If you think I'd rather my kids grow up in America surrounded by guns and heavily armed cops you're nuts.

The percentage of gun owners killing all those Americans is also beside the point. If you have to suffer to save thousands of kids a year - and by suffer I mean have your toy taken away - then so be it.

There's no justification got 300M guns being in the wild in a country of 300M. And even less when you simply look at all the innocent people that die so you can own a gun. I simply don't care about your desire to have one. It pales in comparison to all of the dead Americans. I don't think it should be a right and would indeed support the police knocking on your door and taking it away. Even if it only saved a few hundred children a year.

Your right to a toy doesn't supercede citizens rights to live in safety.

Kinda so what? EdwardBernays May 2016 #1
Generally speaking, gun murders are 50% lower with many more guns in civilian circulation. Kang Colby May 2016 #2
Here's the thing EdwardBernays May 2016 #5
Japan has almost no private gun ownership TeddyR May 2016 #6
yes and? EdwardBernays May 2016 #9
Since Japan contradicted your point? TeddyR May 2016 #14
False. Kang Colby May 2016 #12
we really don't gejohnston May 2016 #3
There you go, bringing facts into the discussion. theatre goon May 2016 #4
those weren't facts EdwardBernays May 2016 #8
Oh, I'm sorry... theatre goon May 2016 #10
Use Google EdwardBernays May 2016 #11
Actually, they were speculation. Straw Man May 2016 #41
When they don't have an answer to what was actually stated... theatre goon May 2016 #43
not true EdwardBernays May 2016 #7
Please. Kang Colby May 2016 #13
Are you saying Jews with guns would have stopped the 'final solution'? angstlessk May 2016 #16
No, but gun ownership would have made it more difficult...in my opinion. Lives would have been saved Kang Colby May 2016 #17
A few guns against the government is suicide...what lives would have been saved? angstlessk May 2016 #18
Tell that to the Viet Cong, Afghans, or dozens of other groups throughout history. Kang Colby May 2016 #22
Are you proposing insurrection of the US? angstlessk May 2016 #23
No. Kang Colby May 2016 #24
No I have read Howard Zinn's History of the United States angstlessk May 2016 #25
Sadly, I'm unfamiliar with Howard Zinn. I might have to check out his books sometime. Kang Colby May 2016 #26
I have audio.com and have gifted Howard Zinns book to many angstlessk May 2016 #28
That sounds great. Thank you for the offer. n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #35
1200 saved by the Bielski group. Straw Man May 2016 #40
Defiance CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #47
The wisdom of Tuvia discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #48
Seems the US has a murder problem TeddyR May 2016 #15
Murder by gun problem angstlessk May 2016 #20
unknown, however gejohnston May 2016 #32
There are stories almost daily TeddyR May 2016 #46
Three times as many people are murdered each year with knives... benEzra May 2016 #59
How many of those states have a rate that... beevul May 2016 #21
Ahhh EdwardBernays May 2016 #42
Yes, assume actions on the part of people who don't even exist, and we'll get somewhere. beevul May 2016 #53
Well EdwardBernays May 2016 #54
I wasn't "saying" anything. I was ASKING... beevul May 2016 #55
I assume EdwardBernays May 2016 #56
So many misconceptions ... Straw Man May 2016 #57
Yes. You do. beevul May 2016 #58
I will give you credit for rubbing the surface, gejohnston May 2016 #31
"a bizarre obsession with guns" says more about you than it does anyone else. N/T beevul May 2016 #19
"Kinda so what?" How mediocre and unimaginative. We have big improvement, but... Eleanors38 May 2016 #50
Not when it's your child Iliyah May 2016 #27
The U.S. is much safer today than any point within the last fifty years. Kang Colby May 2016 #30
I'm still mad Iliyah May 2016 #33
Why? Kang Colby May 2016 #34
Respectfully, the causes of ALL crime and homicides should be studied more... Eleanors38 May 2016 #49
"would put our murder rate on par with Denmark or Australia" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #29
Some food for thought. I think it is interesting that when Americans are led to believe violence doc03 May 2016 #36
I don't think it is the same population gejohnston May 2016 #37
Well I guess I have to spell it out the firearms industry's biggest doc03 May 2016 #38
no they are not. gejohnston May 2016 #39
You can't tell me the NRA doesn't promote the violence is out of control doc03 May 2016 #44
I haven't seen any such claims gejohnston May 2016 #45
Except it isn't! scscholar May 2016 #51
Please tell me, especially with your handle, that this is sarcasm whatthehey May 2016 #52
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