Gun Control & RKBA

Giggity

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3. I don't think Zimmerman should have as much as the right to freedom of movement.

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:53 AM

May 2016

That doesn't mean that I think innocent people should lose their rights and lose their freedom of movement.

A failure of the system isn't fixed by repealing the rights of the innocent.

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George Zimmerman is a good example of bad problem [View all] SecularMotion May 2016 OP

A perfect example why we need a license that makes sense.... Sancho May 2016 #1

New York has most of that ... Straw Man May 2016 #4

how so? gejohnston May 2016 #6

"Larger" refers to weight. Zimmerman was, unquestionably, the "larger". Giggity May 2016 #10

No evidence to support the claim gejohnston May 2016 #12

Other than the phone call to the police? Giggity May 2016 #15

He ran when Zimmerman was still in the car gejohnston May 2016 #17

Zimmerman admitted to chasing Martin to the police dispatcher. Giggity May 2016 #18

The picture of the kid in the Hollister shirt wasn't Trayvon Martin? Captain Stern May 2016 #19

don't think so gejohnston May 2016 #23

Thanks for the info. I've learned a lot. Captain Stern May 2016 #26

According to Snopes.com this is the last known picture of Trayvon. ... spin May 2016 #39

Here is a photo from the 7-11 gejohnston May 2016 #41

The RKBA is not a second class right TupperHappy May 2016 #35

OK, as a touchstone, let's replace activities about guns with voting, or using free speech. Big_Mike May 2016 #38

"People Control, Not Gun Control" Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #40

He wants to license a constitutionally protected right. beevul May 2016 #43

T/F Straw Man May 2016 #2

I don't think Zimmerman should have as much as the right to freedom of movement. Giggity May 2016 #3

what failure of the system? gejohnston May 2016 #7

Zimmerman chased shot and killed an unarmed child. Giggity May 2016 #9

Not true gejohnston May 2016 #11

Completely true. Giggity May 2016 #13

Only one fact matters gejohnston May 2016 #14

Actually chasing, shooting and killing a child "matters". Giggity May 2016 #16

No, you didn't. You didn't see it in person at all. Captain Stern May 2016 #21

I saw the trial in person gejohnston May 2016 #22

Ok. But, that isn't what I asked you. Captain Stern May 2016 #24

he didn't gejohnston May 2016 #25

I agree with all of what you said. Captain Stern May 2016 #27

For God's sake he didn't chase a child. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #20

Yes. He did chase a child. He also shot and killed him. Giggity May 2016 #28

You can call him a tiny tot for all I care. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #29

I'll stick with the actual definitions of words, if you don't mind. Giggity May 2016 #30

I'm 5'2" if someone of Martin's size jumped me I would stop him. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #31

Then I recommend you don't chase after children walking home. Giggity May 2016 #32

I have a right to go where I want without the threat of being jumped, raped or robbed. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #33

You have a right to walk home without being chased by an armed assailant. Giggity May 2016 #34

Nobody chased anybody. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #36

The police call recording verifies that Zimm chased him. Giggity May 2016 #37

A wife beating man who seems to get into various other conflicts including being MillennialDem May 2016 #42

simple, gejohnston May 2016 #44

Three separate incidents - should have used "domestic violence" MillennialDem May 2016 #47

not exactly. gejohnston May 2016 #50

LOL... ffs MillennialDem May 2016 #51

hearsay, gejohnston May 2016 #52

Ok, so 4 separate women (1 in 2005 and 3 in 2013-2014) all accuse Zimmerman of domestic MillennialDem May 2016 #53

there wasn't one in 2005 gejohnston May 2016 #55

And recantations during domestic violence are not uncommon either - I know, my mother was a MillennialDem May 2016 #56

they weren't married in 2005 and there was not such a claim gejohnston May 2016 #57

His ex in 2005 alleged domestic violence. Poor poor Georgie, he must date some really MillennialDem May 2016 #58

I know guys like that gejohnston May 2016 #60

Yet, you still defend his as a great fella, because he's on team gun (note I'm not talking about MillennialDem May 2016 #61

not defending him as an individual at all gejohnston May 2016 #62

Courts never find people innocent, only not guilty MillennialDem May 2016 #63

how about sticking to the evidence? gejohnston May 2016 #64

So if I'm in a fist fight, if I scream for help I'm no longer a threat? Pretty hard to not be a MillennialDem May 2016 #65

if you start to back off, you are no longer a threat gejohnston May 2016 #66

post script gejohnston May 2016 #59

Rights. Straw Man May 2016 #45

Pretty much if you shove someone, and they hit you, then you blast them into oblivion, you're MillennialDem May 2016 #46

If that's what you think ... Straw Man May 2016 #48

You know it's true MillennialDem May 2016 #49

I know that it's not true. Straw Man May 2016 #54

Yes, electing DAs that will prosecute people with no evidence to get votes gejohnston May 2016 #5

one more question, gejohnston May 2016 #8