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In reply to the discussion: George Zimmerman is a good example of bad problem [View all]MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)47. Three separate incidents - should have used "domestic violence"
no proof of the wife beating. In fact, she got in trouble for filing a false claim. Daddy's security cameras didn't show what she claimed.
Didn't she get in trouble for filing a false claim about her and GZ's assets rather than the domestic violence case?
Also, as I said, there were other incidents of domestic violence with different women. Zimmerman shoved a cop in 2005 and also had his 2005 girlfriend (not his wife) accuse him of domestic violence... as well as incidents in 2013 with different women. Both asked the charges to dropped, but that is extremely common in domestic violence cases.
no they don't.
Yes, in practice, they do. Not according to the letter of the law, but according to how the law is applied... yes... if I'm involved in an incident and claim that I was justified in self defense and I kill someone with a single punch or stab... and go before 100 juries I will be convicted more often than if the facts are exactly the same but I shot my assailant once.
because Martin was bashing his head in the sidewalk.
So, bashing someone's head against the sidewalk is not justified in self defense but shooting someone is?
He didn't know Zimmerman was armed, and there is no evidence that he was the aggressor. The evidence showed that Martin went to where he was staying and doubled back. He told the person he was on the phone while he was doing it.
So a suspicious creeper (Trayvon obviously interpreted Zimmerman as that way) is free to follow you and you're not allowed to double back and ask them why the F they're following you?
And yes I don't think the prosecution had enough evidence to convict. But it takes takes beyond a reasonable doubt, not preponderance of evidence to convict.
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OK, as a touchstone, let's replace activities about guns with voting, or using free speech.
Big_Mike
May 2016
#38
I don't think Zimmerman should have as much as the right to freedom of movement.
Giggity
May 2016
#3
I have a right to go where I want without the threat of being jumped, raped or robbed.
Boudica the Lyoness
May 2016
#33
A wife beating man who seems to get into various other conflicts including being
MillennialDem
May 2016
#42
Ok, so 4 separate women (1 in 2005 and 3 in 2013-2014) all accuse Zimmerman of domestic
MillennialDem
May 2016
#53
And recantations during domestic violence are not uncommon either - I know, my mother was a
MillennialDem
May 2016
#56
His ex in 2005 alleged domestic violence. Poor poor Georgie, he must date some really
MillennialDem
May 2016
#58
Yet, you still defend his as a great fella, because he's on team gun (note I'm not talking about
MillennialDem
May 2016
#61
So if I'm in a fist fight, if I scream for help I'm no longer a threat? Pretty hard to not be a
MillennialDem
May 2016
#65
Pretty much if you shove someone, and they hit you, then you blast them into oblivion, you're
MillennialDem
May 2016
#46