Gun Control & RKBA

beergood

(470 posts)

45. the aclu

Tue May 24, 2016, 04:42 PM

May 2016

disagrees "Over the years, the ACLU has frequently represented or defended individuals engaged in some truly offensive speech. We have defended the speech rights of communists, Nazis, Ku Klux Klan members, accused terrorists, pornographers, anti-LGBT activists, and flag burners. That’s because the defense of freedom of speech is most necessary when the message is one most people find repulsive. Constitutional rights must apply to even the most unpopular groups if they’re going to be preserved for everyone."
https://www.aclu.org/issues/free-speech

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California Senate Passes Comprehensive New Gun Control Legislation [View all] Eugene May 2016 OP

Remember folks... beevul May 2016 #1

This had nothing to do with "gun violence." benEzra May 2016 #2

fpc petition beergood May 2016 #3

More useless feel-good nonsense, while action that could result in change is fumbled! pablo_marmol May 2016 #4

Bullet button loophole...such a phrase makes me sick. Kang Colby May 2016 #5

Spot on, every word. beevul May 2016 #7

I find it intriguing sarisataka May 2016 #9

Yep, they got what they wanted Duckhunter935 May 2016 #11

When I first heard of this legislation, I googled around for more info........ pablo_marmol May 2016 #14

banners wanna ban. ileus May 2016 #6

Wasn't this legislation started sarisataka May 2016 #8

you forgot to mention beergood May 2016 #39

They are out of their... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #10

"However, if they do pass and are signed there could be some ugly backlash......." pablo_marmol May 2016 #15

I can't see... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #16

i agree beergood May 2016 #40

Useless security theater, intended to sway low-information dolts. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #12

Two thumbs up!! pablo_marmol May 2016 #13

Culture War writ-large by open-minded California.... Eleanors38 May 2016 #17

California has long been in the forefront of national changes. flamin lib May 2016 #18

Ummmm.... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #19

It's a mixed bag. Lots of progress on domestic violence gun seizures and UBC as well as some flamin lib May 2016 #20

Curious choice of words for someone who owns so many guns... Marengo May 2016 #21

Not curious at all. Ownership doesn't convey fetishism. flamin lib May 2016 #22

"Fetishism" is not a legal term. Straw Man May 2016 #23

Speaking of reproductive rights, I wonder how well controllers would tolerate arguments against... Marengo May 2016 #33

Would you be willing to surrender your gun rights and your guns at this very moment? Marengo May 2016 #24

I haven't been asked to do so. However, gun rights, like all rights, have limitations. flamin lib May 2016 #25

Then you have a devotion on some level to the right... Marengo May 2016 #26

You bring nothing to this conversation than the usual flamin lib May 2016 #27

I suppose you can supply a quote where I said such a thing... Marengo May 2016 #28

If you wanted to have a real conversation you would not have said the things you have. You don't flamin lib May 2016 #29

What a flaming joke, as if you desire any discussion beyond the beatification of you positions. Marengo May 2016 #31

Game. Set. Match. pablo_marmol May 2016 #34

Yeah, if the game is scored on logical fallacies, made up 'facts', misattributed commentary and flamin lib May 2016 #35

More than a little projection on your part. pablo_marmol May 2016 #36

Your Uncle Ruckus-isms aside, why should *you* be trusted with guns, and others not? friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #37

"Guns for me... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #50

Lunacy, eh? Care to explain that? Marengo May 2016 #53

Look like you have the time to explain what you meant by "lunacy" Marengo Jun 2016 #56

He brings "nothing" to the conversation......... pablo_marmol May 2016 #38

Thats an unknown demographic... beevul Jun 2016 #58

Clearly! NT pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #59

"Just as I can't walk around with a bull horn shouting obscenities as an expression of free speech" beergood May 2016 #42

That is beyond ignorant. Past the obscenity part are noise ordinances, harassment and a host of flamin lib May 2016 #43

the aclu beergood May 2016 #45

" Just as I can't walk around with a bull horn shouting obscenities..." beevul Jun 2016 #57

"when actual voters get the chance things go poorly for gunz." beergood May 2016 #41

The Colorado recall was reversed in the next election. nt flamin lib May 2016 #44

and yet beergood May 2016 #46

The laws passed are still on the books. nt flamin lib May 2016 #47

for now beergood May 2016 #49

For ever. nt flamin lib May 2016 #51

forever times infinity beergood May 2016 #52

In which the GOP won control of the CO Senate- but you still have the gun laws you wanted friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #54

you use fetishists as if its a bad thing beergood May 2016 #48

Ha ha ha......you keep thinking that! pablo_marmol May 2016 #30

Law Enforcement Union Joining the Opposition of Newsom’s Ballot Initiative beergood May 2016 #32

A variety of diverse organizations have joined the fight against Gavin Newsom’s unconstitutional beergood May 2016 #55