Gun Control & RKBA

beevul

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17. And theres your problem in a nutshell.

Sat May 28, 2016, 12:38 PM

May 2016

If the only reason for laws is to STOP crime...

The point of laws is to punish crime after is has been committed, to offer a legal recourse.

Laws that venture away from that purpose into "prevention" territory, are frequently useless for that purpose, and regularly ensnare and limit those who aren't a problem, and who no legal recourse is really needed against.

Of course the war on drugs bunch disagrees with that whole heartedly, just like you are sure to do.

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Can you imagine believing this? [View all] Kang Colby May 2016 OP

Which is why EdwardBernays May 2016 #1

And where in the original posting... theatre goon May 2016 #3

It's simple EdwardBernays May 2016 #4

Yes, very simple. theatre goon May 2016 #5

No EdwardBernays May 2016 #6

Logical...? theatre goon May 2016 #13

Logical? Straw Man May 2016 #34

The problem with that logic EdwardBernays May 2016 #35

C'mon now ... Straw Man May 2016 #38

people would get shot with bows and crossbows, gejohnston May 2016 #39

Where did you get the strange idea that a law would stop a crime? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #8

Check the OP EdwardBernays May 2016 #11

The fault lies in the assumptions discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #18

Your premise is flawed sarisataka May 2016 #9

No EdwardBernays May 2016 #10

it is called sarcasm, gejohnston May 2016 #40

No? EdwardBernays May 2016 #41

I'm more inclined to think that you wouldn't recognize it. gejohnston May 2016 #42

Absolutely. EdwardBernays May 2016 #48

not a problem beergood May 2016 #47

no it isn't gejohnston May 2016 #12

No EdwardBernays May 2016 #16

not all, gejohnston May 2016 #19

Not even close EdwardBernays May 2016 #36

that has been established in criminology for 130 years, at least. gejohnston May 2016 #37

I do agree that some gunowners are lawless criminals TeddyR May 2016 #15

And theres your problem in a nutshell. beevul May 2016 #17

No, most gun control laws are in a special class known as crap. Kang Colby May 2016 #20

Nonsense EdwardBernays May 2016 #24

Thats a ridiculous assertion. beevul May 2016 #26

it's obviously not. EdwardBernays May 2016 #29

no country has has gun crime like America? gejohnston May 2016 #31

Thats not a standard... beevul May 2016 #43

Whoa dude...is that Piers Morgan? n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #45

Ask Europeans who suffer from almost no gun crime... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #46

Here's the thing EdwardBernays May 2016 #52

Another ridiculous assertion. beevul May 2016 #57

The moment EdwardBernays May 2016 #59

hand grenades are not illegal gejohnston May 2016 #61

Right. beevul May 2016 #62

says who? gejohnston May 2016 #27

All emotion. No facts. Kang Colby May 2016 #49

If so few are capable of governing themselves how fewer still are capable of governing others? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #53

??? EdwardBernays May 2016 #54

You're the one claiming people can't be trusted to govern themselves. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #55

You've misunderstood EdwardBernays May 2016 #56

Nobody has misunderstood. beevul May 2016 #58

No EdwardBernays May 2016 #60

Lets get something strait here... beevul May 2016 #63

I also see a daily report of police excesses. What's a unicorn to think now? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #65

whats wrong with that? beergood May 2016 #64

One of the dumbest memes of all times. marble falls May 2016 #2

How about this one? sarisataka May 2016 #7

I used to think I should be allowed to own whatever I wanted so long as I kept it to myself ... marble falls May 2016 #21

just a few things gejohnston May 2016 #22

This is the last response - I realy do not belong here, but here it is: marble falls May 2016 #25

First, this is not a "protected group". beevul May 2016 #28

if we didn't have a gang problem, gejohnston May 2016 #30

"This is the last response - I really do not belong here......" pablo_marmol May 2016 #50

The errors and omissions discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #23

Before you start you'all-ing sarisataka May 2016 #32

Thanks for sharing. Kang Colby May 2016 #33

The whole point of control is to hammer on legal gun owners. ileus May 2016 #14

No, i can't. But many do. MariaThinks May 2016 #51