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marble falls

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21. I used to think I should be allowed to own whatever I wanted so long as I kept it to myself ...
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

and that if I used something to defend myself it would be moot as to the "legality" of the weapon itself because I was as allowed by the Constitution to protect myself. I bought into the John Birch/NRA bushwa that if I were a registered gun owner - well Khrushchev himself will use the records and take my gun from my cold dead hand himself. I believe we have the rights to own weapons, and the Constitution that gives us our right to own also gives Federal, State and Local governments the right to control and curb the right in response poblic safety.

You know, like the fact over twenty shootings this year so far have been at the armed hand of children under three years old.

The fact is that any honest gun owner should have no problem with a national data base, you'all seem to have no problems with TSA, no fly lists. Why not a national data base? Just think how many domestic and work place shooting would be prevented if the cops just disarmed all those gun owning hot heads with restraining orders who end up shooting mostly women, a lot of children - themselves.

I happen to agree with a lot of what you say about the Second Amendment.

I agree with Col Bo's three reasons for an armed militia:
1. To protect ourselves if the Govt can't protect ourselves from criminals.
2. To protect ourselves if the Govt can't protect ourselves from a foreign threat.
3. To protect ourselves from an unresponsive Govt.

I also believe government was instituted for moderating the effect of one groups rights from interfering with another's. As none of reasons the Col gave for maintaining weapons exist, I believe the Govt is acting in the interest of the big majority of us.

Registering is essential. So is a national data base of those who should not be allowed to be armed, like people with peace warrant, restraining orders, on bail for family violence need to be disarmed.. The adult who allows a weapon into the hands of a child needs severe jail time, doubled if the weapon was not registered or on the data base.

But of course this is a protected group and I generally don't get on gun threads because both extremes are semi-full of themselves.

Go on about your meaningless meme-ing.

Can you imagine believing this? [View all] Kang Colby May 2016 OP
Which is why EdwardBernays May 2016 #1
And where in the original posting... theatre goon May 2016 #3
It's simple EdwardBernays May 2016 #4
Yes, very simple. theatre goon May 2016 #5
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #6
Logical...? theatre goon May 2016 #13
Logical? Straw Man May 2016 #34
The problem with that logic EdwardBernays May 2016 #35
C'mon now ... Straw Man May 2016 #38
people would get shot with bows and crossbows, gejohnston May 2016 #39
Where did you get the strange idea that a law would stop a crime? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #8
Check the OP EdwardBernays May 2016 #11
The fault lies in the assumptions discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #18
Your premise is flawed sarisataka May 2016 #9
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #10
it is called sarcasm, gejohnston May 2016 #40
No? EdwardBernays May 2016 #41
I'm more inclined to think that you wouldn't recognize it. gejohnston May 2016 #42
Absolutely. EdwardBernays May 2016 #48
not a problem beergood May 2016 #47
no it isn't gejohnston May 2016 #12
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #16
not all, gejohnston May 2016 #19
Not even close EdwardBernays May 2016 #36
that has been established in criminology for 130 years, at least. gejohnston May 2016 #37
I do agree that some gunowners are lawless criminals TeddyR May 2016 #15
And theres your problem in a nutshell. beevul May 2016 #17
No, most gun control laws are in a special class known as crap. Kang Colby May 2016 #20
Nonsense EdwardBernays May 2016 #24
Thats a ridiculous assertion. beevul May 2016 #26
it's obviously not. EdwardBernays May 2016 #29
no country has has gun crime like America? gejohnston May 2016 #31
Thats not a standard... beevul May 2016 #43
Whoa dude...is that Piers Morgan? n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #45
Ask Europeans who suffer from almost no gun crime... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #46
Here's the thing EdwardBernays May 2016 #52
Another ridiculous assertion. beevul May 2016 #57
The moment EdwardBernays May 2016 #59
hand grenades are not illegal gejohnston May 2016 #61
Right. beevul May 2016 #62
says who? gejohnston May 2016 #27
All emotion. No facts. Kang Colby May 2016 #49
If so few are capable of governing themselves how fewer still are capable of governing others? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #53
??? EdwardBernays May 2016 #54
You're the one claiming people can't be trusted to govern themselves. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #55
You've misunderstood EdwardBernays May 2016 #56
Nobody has misunderstood. beevul May 2016 #58
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #60
Lets get something strait here... beevul May 2016 #63
I also see a daily report of police excesses. What's a unicorn to think now? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #65
whats wrong with that? beergood May 2016 #64
One of the dumbest memes of all times. marble falls May 2016 #2
How about this one? sarisataka May 2016 #7
I used to think I should be allowed to own whatever I wanted so long as I kept it to myself ... marble falls May 2016 #21
just a few things gejohnston May 2016 #22
This is the last response - I realy do not belong here, but here it is: marble falls May 2016 #25
First, this is not a "protected group". beevul May 2016 #28
if we didn't have a gang problem, gejohnston May 2016 #30
"This is the last response - I really do not belong here......" pablo_marmol May 2016 #50
The errors and omissions discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #23
Before you start you'all-ing sarisataka May 2016 #32
Thanks for sharing. Kang Colby May 2016 #33
The whole point of control is to hammer on legal gun owners. ileus May 2016 #14
Yep. The worst thing about GunFree Zonesİ is the freaking advertisememt. Eleanors38 May 2016 #44
No, i can't. But many do. MariaThinks May 2016 #51
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