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In reply to the discussion: I'm okay with violent felons owning guns after they serve their sentence... [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)20. Yes I have checked
and if you remove suicide from the definition of "gun violence" you will find that there is zero correlation. BTW, that table in the UCR doesn't back up your claim. It is a break down of gender and race.
No.
Europeans and Canadians do have lower crime rates, but some European countries have had gun control for close to 100 years, like Germany. Others still have had it since before handguns were relatively affordable. Others still have strong cultural disgust with guns, like France. Over time those became strict gun control policies. No country in Europe had a lot of guns and low gun crime. Then strict gun control and a lot of gun crime. That's not a thing.
Actually, there were a lot of inexpensive guns made in Europe at the time, and it doesn't go back 100 years. I wouldn't define German law at the time as strict. Canada started registering and licencing handguns in the 1930s, machine guns and long guns were not regulated until machine guns had to be registered in the 1950s before being banned in 1977. None of it had anything to do with culture, it had everything to do with the Red Scare in the 1920s. BTW, France's gun ownership rate is somewhere between New Zealand and France. The high ownership rates in Europe, depending on the UN study you go by, are Norway, Finland, Czech Republic, Iceland, Switzerland. Some studies put Finland ahead of us, and Germany as fourth.
BTW, Brazil, Mexico, and Valenzuela all have stricter gun laws than Europe or Canada. USVI has roughly the same gun laws as Hawaii. Guam is about the same as Illinois. Yet, there doesn't seem to be any benefit. Again post hoc ergo propter hoc.
At this point, you are just making shit up.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/blog/Kleck_Patterson.pdf
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I'm okay with violent felons owning guns after they serve their sentence... [View all]
discntnt_irny_srcsm
May 2016
OP
"...we don't have the resources to lock up every murder and rapist and violent criminal forever."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
May 2016
#15
I do not consider robust support of the Second right-wing. Nor did JFK, an NRA member.
Eleanors38
May 2016
#36