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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
38. I'm missing the connection on some of these
Sun May 29, 2016, 05:24 PM
May 2016

like what good banning lobbying would do. There isn't a group that would support this. Lobbying is a form of petitioning the government and communicating with your representatives. Everyone is a member of at least two "special interest groups". Or are you saying that people should simply submit to politicians and political parties? I'm interesting on what you define as "reform" and other weasel words. What specific proposals. You have already said that you are for gun prohibition. Head up, if you happen to live in Norway, there are parts where the law mandates owning and carrying a firearm when not in the city. Just thought I would mention that.
Mine? We do know that Latin America has eight percent of the population, but one third of all homicides not counting military and para military operations. All of them have much stricter gun control laws than anywhere in Europe including the UK.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-50-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2015-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate
Here are the fifty worst cities in the world, here is what they have in common. Out of the list, only three doesn't have strict gun control. Those are NOLA, St Louis, and Detroit.
What do they have in common?
As the article says, drug trafficking, gang wars, political instability, corruption, and poverty.
Let's focus on the US and expand it to not only the three listed above include DC, Chicago, Trenton, Memphis, Newark, Oakland, and Baltimore. Even then, it is concentrated in specific areas. What do these cities have in common? Like the rest they have
---political corruption
---gang warfare
---drug trafficking hubs
---poverty
---crumbling infrastructure in affected areas
---high illiteracy rate among high school graduates in affected areas
---anti intellectualism
food deserts more on that later.
---little to no opportunities for legitimate unemployment.
I have been in the poorest neighborhoods in Korea, Japan, and Germany. I did not see any of the above conditions. In Denver, DC, Metro Manila, San Francisco, I did.
Back to the food desert. Sometime ago, Obama said that it is easier to buy a gun than a fresh vegetable in parts of Chicago. Many of the gun blogs ridiculed him as being ignorant to the fact that there are no gun stores in Chicago, probably none in Cook County. I understood exactly what he meant. If you want to buy a gun in those parts of Chicago, you go see the guy that you get your weed or coke from. He might be next door. If you want to eat something other than shit loaded with chemicals and sodium from process foods isle at a gas station, then you have to travel a distance. That is why poor people are more obese than affluent people in this country. Since this is rather long, I will list some of my specific ideas.

Lol EdwardBernays May 2016 #1
Are you saying that... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #2
Well EdwardBernays May 2016 #3
We don't have a Scandinavian system discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #6
You're right EdwardBernays May 2016 #7
how do you know the "results" gejohnston May 2016 #9
Check it out for yourself EdwardBernays May 2016 #12
the question was about gejohnston May 2016 #16
Like I said EdwardBernays May 2016 #17
perhaps gejohnston May 2016 #18
not true EdwardBernays May 2016 #19
Yes I have checked gejohnston May 2016 #20
"...we don't have the resources to lock up every murder and rapist and violent criminal forever." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #15
More EdwardBernays May 2016 #22
I infer you're against the idea discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #24
the idea... EdwardBernays May 2016 #26
"Crime is a symptom..." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #27
No worries EdwardBernays May 2016 #28
Some replies discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #33
cool EdwardBernays May 2016 #35
replies discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #51
I'm missing the connection on some of these gejohnston May 2016 #38
ok EdwardBernays May 2016 #40
Latin America is mostly middle income, gejohnston May 2016 #42
Ok 4 EdwardBernays May 2016 #47
still making an argument based on emotion and gejohnston May 2016 #50
part two gejohnston May 2016 #39
ok 2 EdwardBernays May 2016 #41
community policing isn't riding around in cars, gejohnston May 2016 #43
Ok 3 EdwardBernays May 2016 #45
cum hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston May 2016 #48
post script gejohnston May 2016 #44
As I said before EdwardBernays May 2016 #46
the only people who would obey that, gejohnston May 2016 #49
I haven't heard from you on post #15 discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #21
I just replied EdwardBernays May 2016 #23
me too, thanks n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #25
cum hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston May 2016 #8
Yes EdwardBernays May 2016 #10
I was hoping to see something more scholarly that The Atlantic gejohnston May 2016 #14
And yet... beevul May 2016 #13
Welcome to the Gungeon SecularMotion May 2016 #4
Even for the Gungeon EdwardBernays May 2016 #5
Heh. Most controllers sound more RW than folks here. But enjoy your myth. Eleanors38 May 2016 #29
Depends EdwardBernays May 2016 #31
I do not consider robust support of the Second right-wing. Nor did JFK, an NRA member. Eleanors38 May 2016 #36
wellll EdwardBernays May 2016 #37
It wasn't a pro-gun poster who said this... beevul May 2016 #30
Another gun control poster sarisataka May 2016 #32
And they say gun rights supporters on DU are supposed to be the violent ones... beevul May 2016 #34
I read an article recently TeddyR May 2016 #11
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