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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,580 posts)
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Sun May 29, 2016, 08:32 PM
May 2016
- Non-violent offenders NEVER go to prison.

I'd not be ok with this if I'm honest, but I'd think prison has to be more like Swedish style prison. The goal has to be rehabilitation as much as punishment.

I currently see prison as neither punishment nor rehab. For me, prison would be 'you have a bad habit of hurting others so you're no longer allowed to be with them'...period.



- Healthcare needs to be a civil service job run by the individual states and federally subsidized.
I'm not sure why it needs to be run by states, unless you mean to make it more responsive, etc. I'd say that healthcare is LARGELY the same from state to state though, so national standards and local control is probably a good model.

In the US doctors and other professionals are licensed by the state(s) in which the practice. The US theory is that states regulate individuals and interpersonal behavior. The federal government regulates interstate activities, crimes and commerce. States set standards for their schools, they license doctors, teachers and drivers. States in many cases recognize each others licenses. Some states have certain taxes that you have to pay like an income tax but if you don't live in that state, your home state will credit some or all of the tax paid to the state where you work off of what you owe the home state.



Innovation and job creation must be encouraged and protected...

BTW, I've had dealings with a jeweler in Ireland. Great folks, great products.



...health insurance as Americans think of it is anachronistic and should be done away with completely.

On the TV show Jeopardy, "The answer is 'health insurance' and the correct question would be: "How can we increase the cost of healthcare by 10-20% across the board with no benefit?"



I personally think America needs an immediate moratorium on all gun sales, including private sales, and a 5 year plan to completely buy back all guns off the street. I ahve no interest in gun control that lowers gun crime and death by 10% - great though it would be - because that still means 27,000 dead Americans at the end of a gun every year - hardly a successful policy.

I don't agree nor do I see that being any real answer. As was said in the movie Lord of War: "Where there's a will, there's a weapon." I do fundamentally agree that violent crime is mostly a symptom caused by other problems.



"...guaranteed minimum income..."

I've been talking to some co-workers about the same idea. I figure lots of people would be better off and the country would save money overall.


You have a nice night if you're still reading. If not have a great day when you're back.
Lol EdwardBernays May 2016 #1
Are you saying that... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #2
Well EdwardBernays May 2016 #3
We don't have a Scandinavian system discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #6
You're right EdwardBernays May 2016 #7
how do you know the "results" gejohnston May 2016 #9
Check it out for yourself EdwardBernays May 2016 #12
the question was about gejohnston May 2016 #16
Like I said EdwardBernays May 2016 #17
perhaps gejohnston May 2016 #18
not true EdwardBernays May 2016 #19
Yes I have checked gejohnston May 2016 #20
"...we don't have the resources to lock up every murder and rapist and violent criminal forever." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #15
More EdwardBernays May 2016 #22
I infer you're against the idea discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #24
the idea... EdwardBernays May 2016 #26
"Crime is a symptom..." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #27
No worries EdwardBernays May 2016 #28
Some replies discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #33
cool EdwardBernays May 2016 #35
replies discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #51
I'm missing the connection on some of these gejohnston May 2016 #38
ok EdwardBernays May 2016 #40
Latin America is mostly middle income, gejohnston May 2016 #42
Ok 4 EdwardBernays May 2016 #47
still making an argument based on emotion and gejohnston May 2016 #50
part two gejohnston May 2016 #39
ok 2 EdwardBernays May 2016 #41
community policing isn't riding around in cars, gejohnston May 2016 #43
Ok 3 EdwardBernays May 2016 #45
cum hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston May 2016 #48
post script gejohnston May 2016 #44
As I said before EdwardBernays May 2016 #46
the only people who would obey that, gejohnston May 2016 #49
I haven't heard from you on post #15 discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #21
I just replied EdwardBernays May 2016 #23
me too, thanks n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #25
cum hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston May 2016 #8
Yes EdwardBernays May 2016 #10
I was hoping to see something more scholarly that The Atlantic gejohnston May 2016 #14
And yet... beevul May 2016 #13
Welcome to the Gungeon SecularMotion May 2016 #4
Even for the Gungeon EdwardBernays May 2016 #5
Heh. Most controllers sound more RW than folks here. But enjoy your myth. Eleanors38 May 2016 #29
Depends EdwardBernays May 2016 #31
I do not consider robust support of the Second right-wing. Nor did JFK, an NRA member. Eleanors38 May 2016 #36
wellll EdwardBernays May 2016 #37
It wasn't a pro-gun poster who said this... beevul May 2016 #30
Another gun control poster sarisataka May 2016 #32
And they say gun rights supporters on DU are supposed to be the violent ones... beevul May 2016 #34
I read an article recently TeddyR May 2016 #11
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