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EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
59. The moment
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

30k people a year die from plastic knives get back to me with your silliness.

And no saying that some people can be trusted with a grenade doesn't mean grenades should be readily available to the public. Saying that, if 30k people a year died by grenade they'd be outlawed and confiscated.

Oh wait. They are illegal. Because there's no safe way for 350m Americans to have access to hand grenades without lots of death. Kinda like guns.

You can pretend 30k people dying a year from one cause, for decades, includes thousands and thousands of children isn't an epidemic, then you don't know what an epidemic is.

http://www.healthline.com/health/worst-disease-outbreaks-history

That's a list of the top 10 epidemics/pandemics in the history of the US.

1793: Yellow Fever Outbreak in Philadelphia: 2000 dead
1830-1851: Second Cholera Pandemic: 150k dead in 22 years
1918: Spanish Flu Pandemic: 675,000 dead
1952: Polio Epidemic: 3,145 dead
1957: Asian Flu Pandemic: 70k dead
1977: Mexican Hot Sauce Botulism Outbreak: less than 60 affected
1993: Cryptosporidium Outbreak in Milwaukee: 100+ killed
2010: Whooping Cough in California: 10 dead
1980s to Now: The AIDS Epidemic: 660k in 30 years - 22k a year on average - 13,712 in 2012

Guns kill more people annually than:

1793: Yellow Fever Outbreak in Philadelphia: 2000 dead
1830-1851: Second Cholera Pandemic: 150k dead in 22 years
1952: Polio Epidemic: 3,145 dead
1977: Mexican Hot Sauce Botulism Outbreak: less than 60 affected
1993: Cryptosporidium Outbreak in Milwaukee: 100+ killed
2010: Whooping Cough in California: 10 dead
1980 to Now: AIDS

As far as the elderly... Now that IS scaremongering. Elderly people are much less likely to suffer from violent crime in Europe and guess what - they don't have guns to protect themselves. Huh.

All American pro-gun arguments boil down to the same thing: justifications for the senseless deaths of 10s of thousands of Americans.

It's OK that thousands of kids are gunned down a year, because of elderly people. Or because the majority of gun owners aren't murders. Or because guns are just tools.

Can you imagine believing this? [View all] Kang Colby May 2016 OP
Which is why EdwardBernays May 2016 #1
And where in the original posting... theatre goon May 2016 #3
It's simple EdwardBernays May 2016 #4
Yes, very simple. theatre goon May 2016 #5
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #6
Logical...? theatre goon May 2016 #13
Logical? Straw Man May 2016 #34
The problem with that logic EdwardBernays May 2016 #35
C'mon now ... Straw Man May 2016 #38
people would get shot with bows and crossbows, gejohnston May 2016 #39
Where did you get the strange idea that a law would stop a crime? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #8
Check the OP EdwardBernays May 2016 #11
The fault lies in the assumptions discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #18
Your premise is flawed sarisataka May 2016 #9
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #10
it is called sarcasm, gejohnston May 2016 #40
No? EdwardBernays May 2016 #41
I'm more inclined to think that you wouldn't recognize it. gejohnston May 2016 #42
Absolutely. EdwardBernays May 2016 #48
not a problem beergood May 2016 #47
no it isn't gejohnston May 2016 #12
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #16
not all, gejohnston May 2016 #19
Not even close EdwardBernays May 2016 #36
that has been established in criminology for 130 years, at least. gejohnston May 2016 #37
I do agree that some gunowners are lawless criminals TeddyR May 2016 #15
And theres your problem in a nutshell. beevul May 2016 #17
No, most gun control laws are in a special class known as crap. Kang Colby May 2016 #20
Nonsense EdwardBernays May 2016 #24
Thats a ridiculous assertion. beevul May 2016 #26
it's obviously not. EdwardBernays May 2016 #29
no country has has gun crime like America? gejohnston May 2016 #31
Thats not a standard... beevul May 2016 #43
Whoa dude...is that Piers Morgan? n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #45
Ask Europeans who suffer from almost no gun crime... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #46
Here's the thing EdwardBernays May 2016 #52
Another ridiculous assertion. beevul May 2016 #57
The moment EdwardBernays May 2016 #59
hand grenades are not illegal gejohnston May 2016 #61
Right. beevul May 2016 #62
says who? gejohnston May 2016 #27
All emotion. No facts. Kang Colby May 2016 #49
If so few are capable of governing themselves how fewer still are capable of governing others? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #53
??? EdwardBernays May 2016 #54
You're the one claiming people can't be trusted to govern themselves. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #55
You've misunderstood EdwardBernays May 2016 #56
Nobody has misunderstood. beevul May 2016 #58
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #60
Lets get something strait here... beevul May 2016 #63
I also see a daily report of police excesses. What's a unicorn to think now? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #65
whats wrong with that? beergood May 2016 #64
One of the dumbest memes of all times. marble falls May 2016 #2
How about this one? sarisataka May 2016 #7
I used to think I should be allowed to own whatever I wanted so long as I kept it to myself ... marble falls May 2016 #21
just a few things gejohnston May 2016 #22
This is the last response - I realy do not belong here, but here it is: marble falls May 2016 #25
First, this is not a "protected group". beevul May 2016 #28
if we didn't have a gang problem, gejohnston May 2016 #30
"This is the last response - I really do not belong here......" pablo_marmol May 2016 #50
The errors and omissions discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #23
Before you start you'all-ing sarisataka May 2016 #32
Thanks for sharing. Kang Colby May 2016 #33
The whole point of control is to hammer on legal gun owners. ileus May 2016 #14
Yep. The worst thing about GunFree Zonesİ is the freaking advertisememt. Eleanors38 May 2016 #44
No, i can't. But many do. MariaThinks May 2016 #51
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