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beevul

(12,194 posts)
62. Right.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016
30k people a year die from plastic knives get back to me with your silliness.


Because it was 30k people dying from plastic utensils that prompted those regs, right?

And no saying that some people can be trusted with a grenade doesn't mean grenades should be readily available to the public.


Anti-gunners can't help but conflate, like you're doing here. Because a discriminate weapon like a firearm that actually has to be aimed, is exactly like an indiscriminate weapon that kills anyone in its proximity.

Oh wait. They are illegal. Because there's no safe way for 350m Americans to have access to hand grenades without lots of death. Kinda like guns.


Oh, wait. You don't know fuckall about this subject, and are spewing falsehoods again. Grenades ARE legal to own under the national firearms act of 1934.

Oops. They're legally referred to as 'destructive devices' under the NFA. Look it up.

You can pretend 30k people dying a year from one cause, for decades, includes thousands and thousands of children isn't an epidemic, then you don't know what an epidemic is.


You can pretend that suicide and homicide have the same causes and therefore require the same solutions, to your hearts content, although it makes you look like you care nothing for the lives your using in a failed attempt to prop up your argument, since not correctly identifying the root cause does them all a major disservice. We on the other hand, can point out that factually, that suicides and homicides aren't the same, and they therefore don't have the same solutions.

I note that you still have yet to substantiate the "thousands of children" talking point. I thusly dismiss it, until such time as you substantiate it.

As to what an 'epidemic' is, meet mister dictionary:

ep·i·dem·ic: a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.
"a flu epidemic"

Gun violence isn't an infectious disease, nor are individually made bad choices.


As far as the elderly... Now that IS scaremongering. Elderly people are much less likely to suffer from violent crime in Europe and guess what - they don't have guns to protect themselves. Huh.


None of which refutes the fact that such people are at a disadvantage.

All American pro-gun arguments boil down to the same thing: justifications for the senseless deaths of 10s of thousands of Americans.


All anti-gun arguments boil down to the same thing: Blaming deaths on the instrument rather than the people that choose to misuse that instrument, and short of that, blaming the people that aren't committing gun violence because they don't agree with you about the instrument.

Nothing new there.

Look...you aren't very good at this. You haven't any depth of understanding of the subject matter (tell me more about the legality of grenades, wont you?), and your anti-gun retread arguments keep coming off the wheels, as all anti-gun retread arguments inevitably do. At least consider boning up on the facts before you come in here wasting everyones time with falsehoods and hyperbole.
Can you imagine believing this? [View all] Kang Colby May 2016 OP
Which is why EdwardBernays May 2016 #1
And where in the original posting... theatre goon May 2016 #3
It's simple EdwardBernays May 2016 #4
Yes, very simple. theatre goon May 2016 #5
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #6
Logical...? theatre goon May 2016 #13
Logical? Straw Man May 2016 #34
The problem with that logic EdwardBernays May 2016 #35
C'mon now ... Straw Man May 2016 #38
people would get shot with bows and crossbows, gejohnston May 2016 #39
Where did you get the strange idea that a law would stop a crime? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #8
Check the OP EdwardBernays May 2016 #11
The fault lies in the assumptions discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #18
Your premise is flawed sarisataka May 2016 #9
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #10
it is called sarcasm, gejohnston May 2016 #40
No? EdwardBernays May 2016 #41
I'm more inclined to think that you wouldn't recognize it. gejohnston May 2016 #42
Absolutely. EdwardBernays May 2016 #48
not a problem beergood May 2016 #47
no it isn't gejohnston May 2016 #12
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #16
not all, gejohnston May 2016 #19
Not even close EdwardBernays May 2016 #36
that has been established in criminology for 130 years, at least. gejohnston May 2016 #37
I do agree that some gunowners are lawless criminals TeddyR May 2016 #15
And theres your problem in a nutshell. beevul May 2016 #17
No, most gun control laws are in a special class known as crap. Kang Colby May 2016 #20
Nonsense EdwardBernays May 2016 #24
Thats a ridiculous assertion. beevul May 2016 #26
it's obviously not. EdwardBernays May 2016 #29
no country has has gun crime like America? gejohnston May 2016 #31
Thats not a standard... beevul May 2016 #43
Whoa dude...is that Piers Morgan? n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #45
Ask Europeans who suffer from almost no gun crime... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #46
Here's the thing EdwardBernays May 2016 #52
Another ridiculous assertion. beevul May 2016 #57
The moment EdwardBernays May 2016 #59
hand grenades are not illegal gejohnston May 2016 #61
Right. beevul May 2016 #62
says who? gejohnston May 2016 #27
All emotion. No facts. Kang Colby May 2016 #49
If so few are capable of governing themselves how fewer still are capable of governing others? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #53
??? EdwardBernays May 2016 #54
You're the one claiming people can't be trusted to govern themselves. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #55
You've misunderstood EdwardBernays May 2016 #56
Nobody has misunderstood. beevul May 2016 #58
No EdwardBernays May 2016 #60
Lets get something strait here... beevul May 2016 #63
I also see a daily report of police excesses. What's a unicorn to think now? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #65
whats wrong with that? beergood May 2016 #64
One of the dumbest memes of all times. marble falls May 2016 #2
How about this one? sarisataka May 2016 #7
I used to think I should be allowed to own whatever I wanted so long as I kept it to myself ... marble falls May 2016 #21
just a few things gejohnston May 2016 #22
This is the last response - I realy do not belong here, but here it is: marble falls May 2016 #25
First, this is not a "protected group". beevul May 2016 #28
if we didn't have a gang problem, gejohnston May 2016 #30
"This is the last response - I really do not belong here......" pablo_marmol May 2016 #50
The errors and omissions discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #23
Before you start you'all-ing sarisataka May 2016 #32
Thanks for sharing. Kang Colby May 2016 #33
The whole point of control is to hammer on legal gun owners. ileus May 2016 #14
Yep. The worst thing about GunFree Zonesİ is the freaking advertisememt. Eleanors38 May 2016 #44
No, i can't. But many do. MariaThinks May 2016 #51
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