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Gun Control & RKBA

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Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:12 PM May 2016

Honest question. If gun rights supporters are idiots... [View all]

then why won't gun control supporters engage in any form of serious debate or discussion? Gun control support doesn't seem to exist outside of "safe spaces" and a few big cities.



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If you honestly aren't cognizant of "any form of serious debate or discussion" cheapdate May 2016 #1
Very rarely..gun control supporters usually just result to name calling. That's my take on it. n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #2
Then I would suggest you're looking in the wrong places for serious discussion. cheapdate May 2016 #3
Any leads? Thanks...n/t Kang Colby May 2016 #4
Sure, we can start right here. cheapdate May 2016 #13
The 19th century decisions were based on gejohnston May 2016 #18
Again, I barely give a crap about it. cheapdate Jun 2016 #23
background checks have been federal law since the 1990s gejohnston Jun 2016 #24
Hey, for what it's worth, my thin-skinned, smarmy, insulting, "friend", cheapdate Jun 2016 #42
not so much thin skinned, as it is little patience gejohnston Jun 2016 #78
Thank you for that. cheapdate Jun 2016 #83
which begs the question, gejohnston Jun 2016 #84
None of this much affects the actual cheapdate Jun 2016 #91
"Free speech has limits, but what limits?" beergood Jun 2016 #114
What? Those are not the "only limits" on free speech. cheapdate Jun 2016 #118
"The ACLU is continually defending free speech beergood Jun 2016 #122
You said: cheapdate Jun 2016 #125
you think the aclu beergood Jun 2016 #138
The problem with the militia interpretation... Kang Colby Jun 2016 #25
Your group is responsible for so much violence... scscholar Jun 2016 #127
My group isn't responsible for a single murder or accident. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #128
*Criminals* are responsible for the VAST amount of gun violence....... pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #141
What do you think Duckhunter935 May 2016 #11
I don't think much of it. Life's tough. Get a helmet. cheapdate May 2016 #14
No one can answer that question. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #26
^^Let the record underline this "courageous" dodge. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #60
It's not a dodge. cheapdate Jun 2016 #64
You dodged the second part of the question. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #65
??? cheapdate Jun 2016 #67
I second Kang Colby's remark tortoise1956 Jun 2016 #99
"( I guess no more target shooting out in the desert - NUTS!)" beergood Jun 2016 #115
No tortoise1956 Jun 2016 #196
Do you consider sarisataka Jun 2016 #62
You won't get it here Press Virginia May 2016 #5
"Gun humpers" Kang Colby May 2016 #6
One of my favorites! Press Virginia May 2016 #7
Let's Go Mountaineers! ileus Jun 2016 #29
Yes! Finally someone recognizes the reference! Press Virginia Jun 2016 #38
My first 36 years were in WV. ileus Jun 2016 #44
Go Hokies! Kang Colby Jun 2016 #124
I miss the Big East...if only the ACC hadn't destroyed it. ileus Jun 2016 #152
And of course ammosexual Duckhunter935 May 2016 #12
So many of their insults are sexually-based... theatre goon Jun 2016 #35
I'll be your Huckleberry. Eko May 2016 #8
you can have one, gejohnston May 2016 #9
Well, you cant just have one. Eko May 2016 #10
not an FFL, gejohnston May 2016 #15
From what I can tell Eko May 2016 #17
yes and no. gejohnston May 2016 #19
Either way Eko May 2016 #20
I didn't disagree with your original point gejohnston May 2016 #21
I agree, no you didnt. Eko May 2016 #22
The most common problem is the lack of knowledge on their part. ManiacJoe May 2016 #16
An excellent point. theatre goon Jun 2016 #36
And if gun rights supporters are such geniuses My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #27
Interesting, when we call for better health care Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #28
And what if doctors recommended My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #32
As long as there is a process and there is a Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #33
Gun lobbyists work against improvements in healthcare My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #34
It would be bad public health policy... Kang Colby Jun 2016 #37
What public health policy? My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #39
There is no ban. beevul Jun 2016 #41
So no gun lobby is standing in the way of CDC research? My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #43
The CDC did a study ordered Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #48
One study of one city My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #52
I'm all for free scientific inquiry gejohnston Jun 2016 #69
Wrong study. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #77
There is no ban on research Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Press Virginia Jun 2016 #40
The Katies of the ban side base their arguments on lies and misinformation ileus Jun 2016 #30
Gun owners are selfish. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #31
re: "...keeping a gun in your house is either..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #45
If your gun is only used ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #71
~~~ discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #72
No. I've been on this soapbox forever ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #85
That's comforting to know. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #104
Brother, I'm the Elmer Gantry of gun control. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #154
I'm sure you are discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #155
It must be the argument that small arms have been obsolete since WWI... Marengo Jun 2016 #156
Well, now that assailants never leave... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #157
LOL....I gotta give that post some points for being funny and creative. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #192
You're far from the first self-appointed "new DU champion of gun control" we've seen friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #111
"You will find them to be interesting reading, I'm sure." pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #119
ill bite beergood Jun 2016 #82
I'm sure they keep them safely locked and unloaded. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #87
"I'm sure they keep them safely locked and unloaded." beergood Jun 2016 #117
Tortured logic. Straw Man Jun 2016 #50
Please feel free to ignore my advice. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #73
"At least I'm looking out for your family's safety..." You merely *claim* that you are looking... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #80
So, exercising my First Amendment Right is ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #86
Your moral-panic mongering differs from theirs only in subject friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #95
Awesome. So Jesus couldn't condemn the money-changers, and ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #100
Oh, I will. And ... Straw Man Jun 2016 #98
LOL! Unless you're a vegan Luddite, so are you. Marengo Jun 2016 #53
I agree. I am. We need to move away from meat as soon as ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #89
Oh no, not far enough. Laboratory produced meat is still meat... Marengo Jun 2016 #96
Carbon footprint is super ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #106
No more extreme than your position on firearms... Marengo Jun 2016 #107
No, whats selfish is blaming the instrument... beevul Jun 2016 #108
I am selfish, a bit. I found there are numerous uses for various guns. jmg257 Jun 2016 #56
A little introspection goes a long way. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #88
Thanks for sharing your opinion - you don't like guns - we get it. I hope however, jonno99 Jun 2016 #61
Guns became useless in war ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #74
Infantry has been outdated since 1916? braddy Jun 2016 #76
Yes. The only reason we have infantry now is because ... Tortmaster Jun 2016 #92
You really need to study up more on warfare and military history. braddy Jun 2016 #93
How many tanks, aircraft, guided missiles, and drones do the Taliban and ISIS/Daesh have? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #81
They aren't in America. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #90
Guerilla warfare is guerilla warfare friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #94
Your position is that small arms are useless in all conflicts, globally? Marengo Jun 2016 #97
A first-world army that hasn't yet defeated the Taliban, after +/- 15 years of trying... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #109
Yes. Castro fought his revolution with T-34s & MiGs. Couple of cruisers, too. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #176
What if you have 35+ guns that have made it through 3 generations ileus Jun 2016 #70
You've been lucky so far. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #75
"If the gun is locked up in a safe and unloaded it's useless." Strawman. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #120
I disagree with your post in its entirety. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #126
Actually we do. Gun rights supporters that hang out in forums and groups like this one flamin lib Jun 2016 #46
Who uses the terms ammosexual Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #49
"Too bad you think a firearms owner correcting misinformation........." pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #58
Would calling others "glib sociopaths" be "belittling an besmirching"?N/T beevul Jun 2016 #102
Lol Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #105
As a gun owner yourself, you are ok with arguing for restrictive legislation... Marengo Jun 2016 #51
Bring something constructive to the conversation or just go away flamin lib Jun 2016 #54
I'll take that as a yes then. Anything goes so long as the goal is achieved... Marengo Jun 2016 #55
Stop trying to hijack this thread. The OP asked why we don't have productive discussions. flamin lib Jun 2016 #63
I'm commenting on something YOU wrote. Why won't you answer the question? Marengo Jun 2016 #66
Because IT IS OFF TOPIC. Typical attempt to launch a red herring and ignore the topic at hand. flamin lib Jun 2016 #68
Unless your commentary was off topic, it's spot on and you know it. Why are you so evasive? Marengo Jun 2016 #79
I will answer one more time that the OP asked 'why isn't there productive discussion flamin lib Jun 2016 #110
In other words, you cannot answer honestly as that would fatally weaken... Marengo Jun 2016 #112
No, I refuse to engage you in a personal argument over a red herring. We can keep this going or you flamin lib Jun 2016 #113
Right, just as I said earlier, it's obvious you refuse because you can't without damaging... Marengo Jun 2016 #116
Oh, too much work to start a thread? Exhausted from typing so much trying to flamin lib Jun 2016 #137
You wouldn't be pushing back so hard unless you have realized your integrity is threatened... Marengo Jun 2016 #142
Sigh. This is a red herring. If you'd like to add something to the question posed in the OP flamin lib Jun 2016 #146
i think we've already well enough established your disingenuous nature... Marengo Jun 2016 #149
Oh, and since you have so much time on your hands... Marengo Jun 2016 #150
No. You refuse to answer because it would fatally weaken your argument. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #121
You have no part in this conversation. nt flamin lib Jun 2016 #135
Says you. And I dismiss your viewpoint. NT pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #136
Are you the arbiter of who may and may not post a reply in this thread, and to what? Marengo Jun 2016 #143
And what game is that? Pointing out logical fallacies? Not taking bait? Or is it poor form to ask flamin lib Jun 2016 #145
Attributing logical fallacies where they don't exist in order to camouflage... Marengo Jun 2016 #147
Where none exist? flamin lib Jun 2016 #158
Oh, there is no question, you simply don't have any... Marengo Jun 2016 #159
Yes, attempting to take a conversation in an entirely different direction is, by definition, flamin lib Jun 2016 #160
You must not be capable of fully comprehending what you wrote... Marengo Jun 2016 #162
It isn't my comprehension that's a problem here. nt flamin lib Jun 2016 #164
Why are you so apparently fearful in answering a simple question? Marengo Jun 2016 #161
I'm not fearful, just insistent that you stop attempting to hijack a thread so flamin lib Jun 2016 #163
The argument is clear. You either cannot comprehend it, or cannot respond without... Marengo Jun 2016 #166
I have made no premise, only steadfastly refused to engage your red herring. nt flamin lib Jun 2016 #169
The strength of you argument should easily be able to banish that red herring... Marengo Jun 2016 #172
Would you be so generous to explain with your ample time... Marengo Jun 2016 #168
46 was a reply to the OP and contained quotes from gungeoneers to explain flamin lib Jun 2016 #170
Those are quotes from posts here on DU? Why haven't you provided links or cites... Marengo Jun 2016 #171
Because it would be like providing links to explain why the sky is blue. Everybody else in the flamin lib Jun 2016 #174
So, they are NOT actual quotes as you have claimed? Marengo Jun 2016 #175
Yes, they are very close paraphrases. flamin lib Jun 2016 #177
Bullshit, a paraphrase is NOT a quote... Marengo Jun 2016 #178
You most certainly did, with your fake quotes... Marengo Jun 2016 #179
Good start to posting for Imaginary Me. flamin lib Jun 2016 #180
Where are the links to those quotes, real disingenuous you... Marengo Jun 2016 #182
Oh, good move! Demand links from Imaginary Me! flamin lib Jun 2016 #184
Did someone else hack your account, write post #170, and apparently lie? Marengo Jun 2016 #186
Not up to your other posts but still not bad, finding a way call me a liar without flamin lib Jun 2016 #188
As it wasn't imaginary fingers that typed that post, it would appear that you are either... Marengo Jun 2016 #189
Well, two out of three isn't too bad. nt flamin lib Jun 2016 #190
Still no links to those "quotes" which form the basis of your argument? Marengo Jun 2016 #193
WTF, your red herring was a take off on the theme. nt flamin lib Jun 2016 #195
Waiting for the links or cites for those quotes... Marengo Jun 2016 #173
Your interlocutor is just playing games. beevul Jun 2016 #181
True, I assumed as much, but am somewhat surprised he made the blunder... Marengo Jun 2016 #183
Just sayin... beevul Jun 2016 #185
Absolutely true, as is clear in this thread. Marengo Jun 2016 #187
Also, keep in mind what that poster is defending. beevul Jun 2016 #194
It's been a few days now, still no links to the alleged quotes? Marengo Jun 2016 #197
Another way of calling me a liar is to to demand I provide links to established gungeon flamin lib Jun 2016 #198
I won't call you a liar. However, your claims as to what's been said remain faith-promoting rumor friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #199
I'm still waiting for links to those quotes, or your acknowledgement... Marengo Jun 2016 #200
What sort of authority do you have to control who may respond to what... Marengo Jun 2016 #151
This isn't private messaging. Straw Man Jun 2016 #148
There can be no "productive discussions", when you refuse to answer questions asked of you. beevul Jun 2016 #103
Wow Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #57
Excellent example sarisataka Jun 2016 #59
"Fringe"? beevul Jun 2016 #101
Thank you, flamin lib. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #123
There is the whole "gun culture" aspect. jmg257 Jun 2016 #167
I think you've missed the point, KC. Gun rights supporters are scum! pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #129
haha..thanks for pointing that out, Pablo. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #130
Anytime, brother. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #131
I'm willing Matrosov Jun 2016 #132
That's false. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #133
Not really Matrosov Jun 2016 #134
sorry beergood Jun 2016 #140
I wouldn't call you a communist, it's not a pejorative in my mind having thought myself one in my... Marengo Jun 2016 #144
For someone who shoots often... Kang Colby Jun 2016 #153
"The problem is, many RKBA supporters can't argue beyond:" pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #139
Hey Kang, want to see why we can't have cogent discussion? flamin lib Jun 2016 #165
I'm OK flamin. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #191
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