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In reply to the discussion: Questions on gun-control/rights [View all]discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,567 posts)13. In reply
"All guns should be confiscated." That won't happen nor is it feasible.
"theres endless examples of laws and rights changing" Laws change all the time whenever the legislature votes. Rights change? You have an alien definition of rights.
"_____ should be regulated by society to protect society." Perhaps society can be protected and even enhanced by having those on welfare subjected to involuntary kidney donation. Perhaps eugenics is good idea and the government should chose who can and can't have children. Maybe the government should choose your spouse for you. Perhaps you should rethink where the line should be drawn and exactly why.
In general, I think the US and its people have made it amply clear that they are not Europeans nor do wish to be. The minority that do have moved. I applaud certain aspects of areas that benefit from the government running and regulating much of the activity.
FYI, the Bill of Rights is incorporated into the Constitution as amendments. If you study US law, it becomes apparent that the rights referenced there are inviolate apart from due process. There have been from time to time laws counter to certain of those named rights and these laws have been or will be corrected. Sam Adams called it "the animating contest for freedom".
Another point, the US does not operate under what is known as parliamentary supremacy. The vote of a legislature is subject to the judgement of the courts. The people have the right to challenge a law.
"theres endless examples of laws and rights changing" Laws change all the time whenever the legislature votes. Rights change? You have an alien definition of rights.
"_____ should be regulated by society to protect society." Perhaps society can be protected and even enhanced by having those on welfare subjected to involuntary kidney donation. Perhaps eugenics is good idea and the government should chose who can and can't have children. Maybe the government should choose your spouse for you. Perhaps you should rethink where the line should be drawn and exactly why.
In general, I think the US and its people have made it amply clear that they are not Europeans nor do wish to be. The minority that do have moved. I applaud certain aspects of areas that benefit from the government running and regulating much of the activity.
FYI, the Bill of Rights is incorporated into the Constitution as amendments. If you study US law, it becomes apparent that the rights referenced there are inviolate apart from due process. There have been from time to time laws counter to certain of those named rights and these laws have been or will be corrected. Sam Adams called it "the animating contest for freedom".
Another point, the US does not operate under what is known as parliamentary supremacy. The vote of a legislature is subject to the judgement of the courts. The people have the right to challenge a law.
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On your statement about Jefferson: I think you've been somewhat misled about him.
Decoy of Fenris
Jun 2016
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