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Demnorth

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Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:36 PM Jun 2016

Just wondering your thoughts on Jolly's proposal? [View all]

Hello - I've been learning here about point of view of gun enthusiasts, reading views on balancing measures to decrease the chance of people on a terrorist watch list buying guns vs. affording due process. I hadn't seen Rep. Jolly's proposal mentioned here, wondering if you think it's reasonable?

“It is common sense that if you are on a national terror list and can’t fly on a plane, you should not be allowed to buy a gun,” Jolly said in a statement. “But the fact is the existing proposal repeatedly pushed by some in Congress to ban firearm purchases by those on the no-fly list is fatally flawed because it provides no due process or recourse protections for innocent law-abiding individuals wrongfully or mistakenly included on the list,” Jolly added. “But equally flawed is a posture of inaction. So let’s do something now, together.”

Under Jolly’s bill, which he says he is circulating to members, a person on the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Database would be prohibited from purchasing a firearm in the United States. If the person attempts to purchase a firearm and is denied because they are on a watch list, they must be notified of their status on the list by the government within 10 days from the time of attempted purchase. The individual is then entitled to a due process hearing within 30 days before a federal judge at which the government must demonstrate by a preponderance of the evidence that the individual should be on the watch list and prohibit from purchasing a firearm. The individual is entitled to see all unclassified evidence against them, and the proceeding remains private to protect the privacy of the individual and the interest of the government.

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/213718-david-jolly-proposes-bill-prevent-potential-terrorists-purchasing-guns



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On it's face seems to be a reasonable proposal.. virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #1
as it exists, gejohnston Jun 2016 #2
If the appeal process includes... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #3
+1 nt jonno99 Jun 2016 #4
^^^ This. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #6
Thanks to you Demnorth Jun 2016 #7
Responsible owners. Straw Man Jun 2016 #8
I really appreciate the background and history Demnorth Jun 2016 #14
have to correct one thing gejohnston Jun 2016 #15
Thanks for the info, Demnorth Jun 2016 #21
You're welcome. Straw Man Jun 2016 #18
Thank you for Demnorth Jun 2016 #22
just to add gejohnston Jun 2016 #10
That was a learning experience, Demnorth Jun 2016 #16
You're welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #11
Thanks for the welcome. Demnorth Jun 2016 #19
The whole list thing is a losing idea discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #20
I agree about the media, Demnorth Jun 2016 #24
and thanks back at you discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #25
In the end, I have to come down on the side of "no lists." Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #5
No use of lists to deny firearm purchase rights. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #9
Admirable that Jolly wishes to do something, but S_B_Jackson Jun 2016 #12
THIS!!!!!! Indydem Jun 2016 #17
Sorry for Demnorth Jun 2016 #23
just found this gejohnston Jun 2016 #13
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