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Gun Control & RKBA

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)

24. Additionally,

Reply to mainstreetonce (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 07:34 AM

Jun 2016

The traditional counter-argument that criminals will just obtain the weapons they want illegally has a weakness.

If criminals will just obtain the more effective killing weapons illegally, why not get a tank? Why not get a fully automatic machine gun?

It seems to me, if I'm a criminal mass killer that can't be stopped by laws, those are the weapons I would be using.

Those are are the more effective weapons and yet we see so few criminal mass killers using them.

I wonder why.

Oh that's right, they're illegal.

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Banning all Muslims vs. Banning all guns: an examination [View all] Shankapotomus Jun 2016 OP

Logical And Well Put.... global1 Jun 2016 #1

A question discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #2

Realistically... Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #8

An "assault weapon"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #15

So you ban handgrips that stick out, leaving equally capable firearms without protruding handgrips. benEzra Jun 2016 #23

Your last paragraph makes an excellent point. mainstreetonce Jun 2016 #3

Thank you (eom) Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #9

Those who want to commit mass murder will find a satisfactory method... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #21

Additionally, Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #24

outside of the US, they do use full autos gejohnston Jun 2016 #25

Why wouldn't real gun control ban all guns? ileus Jun 2016 #4

Oh yes, just like the illegal act... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #5

There's a difference between drugs and guns Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #10

Someone who... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #13

Not deterred Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #16

...just like all those heroin addicts that *could*... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #20

And, btw Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #17

yes and Japan is not anywhere as individualistic as we are gejohnston Jun 2016 #18

I hunt with one of... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #19

Even felons who turn a new page often seek out a weapon for self-defense... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #22

Logic fail - the actual common denominator (the 'problem') is a PERSON intent on killing. jonno99 Jun 2016 #6

In a sense you are correct... Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #11

Nobody has suggested "banning people". But as long as there are jonno99 Jun 2016 #12

. Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #14

As I pointed out in another response to you TeddyR Jun 2016 #26

"Some say the key to stopping mass killings is to ban all Muslims entry to the country." jmg257 Jun 2016 #7

Very good post. deathrind Jun 2016 #27

There are two problems with any ban (weapon -or- magazine): Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #28

Valid points... deathrind Jul 2016 #29