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In reply to the discussion: Let's call them what they are: [View all]Straw Man
(6,764 posts)105. True but irrelevant.
Hunting and self defense are the prime reasons that I have seen cited
as the necessity for owning and carrying guns.
as the necessity for owning and carrying guns.
Neither one is cited in the Constitution.
As to your follow up shot scenario, in our family experience of hunting, a shot animal does not stand around, it runs. So you can reload and follow. Unless you are hunting with a front loader, reloading is quite fast.
It may or may not "run fast," and a follow-up shot may be possible even when the animal runs. Reloading might be "quite fast," but nowhere near as fast as a follow-up shot with (in order of increasing speed) a bolt-action, lever-action, or semi-auto repeater.
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I can appreciate your thoughts on these matters. But this is a culture war...
Eleanors38
Jul 2016
#1
Really? God that's pathetic. How far will gun people go to defend their fetish.
flamin lib
Aug 2016
#19
Jerry Miculek, a professional athlete widely regarded as the fastest shooter in the world,
benEzra
Aug 2016
#76
Trench warfare was a thing of the past by the time the M1 was developed (late 1930's)
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#94
That's what I was wondering. By the time the M1 was adopted, the Army was concentrating...
Marengo
Aug 2016
#95
I've only seen the term used to describe combat shotguns. I'd like to understand the context...
Marengo
Aug 2016
#97
Yeah, 8 vs 10 rounds per clip. Was mixing Enfield with Garand. Thanks for the correction. nt
flamin lib
Aug 2016
#24
The M1 is clip fed, whereas the Enfield is magazine fed. There really isn't any excuse...
Marengo
Aug 2016
#31
"I daresay that I know more about guns...than most gun nuts here on DU"
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#34
Only for bonefide gun nutz. The clip on the M1 is a box loaded outside the rifle.
flamin lib
Aug 2016
#38
No, this is basic technical terminology which someone of your supposed expertise...
Marengo
Aug 2016
#46
What "losing argument"? Correcting your erroneous terminology? It's extremely difficult for me...
Marengo
Aug 2016
#49
You're still deflecting and attacking me instead of addressing the basic premise. nt
flamin lib
Aug 2016
#65
I'm addressing your self professed status as someone highly knowledgeable of firearms...
Marengo
Aug 2016
#85
"If YOU don't understand the internal mechanisms of assault weapons I suggest that you are...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#67
In that particular venue, the Orlando shooter could have shot 103 people with a full-sized pistol,
benEzra
Aug 2016
#79
You're likely right, but I am genuinely curious having owned several M1s over the years...
Marengo
Aug 2016
#142
Because it's an "Evil Scary Gun Term", and "assault weapon" was already taken....
benEzra
Aug 2016
#143
155gr .30-06 is still trading velocity for long range and penetration. Try 110gr.
benEzra
Aug 2016
#33
6mm Remington "worked OK" (in your words) at U Texas. 9mm "worked OK" (again your words) at VT.
benEzra
Aug 2016
#43
Weight is a big issue now, but that was less of an criterion before body armor was general-issue.
benEzra
Aug 2016
#81
The red herrings and deflection in this thread are not coming from your interlocutors:
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#68
"At a time of increasing gun violence in America" Gun crime has decreased markedly in the US
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#106
How can gun violence not be a crime, unless one counts paper targets, clay pigeons...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#108
The *number of media accounts* is on the rise, not the rate. That is what is declining.
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#111
You were talking about a license to own, not a license to carry. Big difference.
beevul
Aug 2016
#113
The book is by a legal scholar...here's some more...there are many cases...it's legal.
Sancho
Aug 2016
#117
Not desiring prior restraint on an enumerated right =/= "(a) desire to allow dangerous people...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#126
I have no problem with carry permits so long as they are given on an objective basis...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#130
Your licensing proposal is flawed, IMO, because of the idea "you can have one IF...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#134
How would you get the gun control lobby to sign up to that, or be constrained by it?
benEzra
Aug 2016
#137
All civilian repeating firearms have the ability to kill a lot of people if misused.
benEzra
Aug 2016
#83