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Showing Original Post only (View all)Yup, it's officially a moral panic: [View all]
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/university-of-texas-campus-concealed-guns.html?_r=0College officials in other states with campus carry, like Colorado and Idaho, say there has been little noticeable impact. In Texas, only people older than 21 can carry concealed handguns, and university leaders estimate only a few hundred will do so in Austin. Mr. Marsh said most people would never even notice, which, he added, is the whole point of concealed carry....
...Already, she said, the law has interfered with teaching. During her first class after the law took effect, she said, her English literature students discussed the rules and she explained how she could not legally prohibit guns in class, or even ask who had them.
Three of them started crying, she said. We did not talk about Jane Austen that day....
...Already, she said, the law has interfered with teaching. During her first class after the law took effect, she said, her English literature students discussed the rules and she explained how she could not legally prohibit guns in class, or even ask who had them.
Three of them started crying, she said. We did not talk about Jane Austen that day....
"But f_i," you may very well say, "don't you realize just how dangerous this will be?"
Yes. Yes, I do:
http://www.dps.texas.gov/rsd/chl/reports/convrates.htm
(tl,dr version- 108 Texas CCW license holder were convicted of felonies in 2015)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=198548
Out of a population of 940,877-that's *1* conviction for every 8711 permitees
http://www.dps.texas.gov/rsd/chl/reports/ActLicAndInstr/ActiveLicandInstr2015.pdf
Active License/Certified Instructor Counts
As of December 31, 2015
Active License Holders:
937,419
Certified Instructors:
3,458
These numbers reflect the number of licensed individuals and certified instructors
As of December 31, 2015
Active License Holders:
937,419
Certified Instructors:
3,458
These numbers reflect the number of licensed individuals and certified instructors
Given the stated estimates by university leaders -and known conviction rates-
it would seem that UT will most likely go about 16 years before the first CC licensee
enrolled there commits any felony, much less one involving illegal use of
a firearm...
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"I bet the percentage is actually quite miniscule." It is - see post #5
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#6
And no good is done by attemting to discuss murder in context of small sub-groups
guillaumeb
Aug 2016
#19
This context-free burbling re. '30,000 dead' is a good example of why you're failing.
pablo_marmol
Aug 2016
#48
We should catalog Thought-terminating cliches. One of the ones I notice most in GD is
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#68
But they *do* kill on occasion. Are those killed by cars and drugs less dead than shooting victims?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#25
You're evading. What if I was the target? Would using deadly force to stop that person be bad?
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#52
Fine words, indeed- but they do not answer the question asked. Here it is again:
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#62
The claim that Zimmerman exercised a right has no bearing to anyone outside of the case.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2016
#76
Is this the official NRA fairy story version of the murder of Trayvon Martin?
guillaumeb
Aug 2016
#80
The character of persons in particular cases have no bearing on rights in other cases
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2016
#87
Wow! That's a pretty "creative" interpretation of the actual evidence and testimony
DonP
Sep 2016
#89
If I'm attacked without provocation and fear grave bodily injury do I have a right to
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#114
For the sake of argument, let us concede that your estimate of him is correct.
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2016
#91
If someone, without provocation, threatened me with grave injury or death would I
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#97
I wish my other interlocutor would answer the question. He's made a point to answer so many other
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2016
#100
You are denying difference in circumstances, which prevents effective action to prevent those deaths
krispos42
Sep 2016
#129
Your collective guilt-tripping and appeals to emotion seem not to be gaining traction
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#13
I agree - at least 2/3 are in that example...suicide and all. Guess most are in fact, as others
jmg257
Aug 2016
#41
Remarkable few of which were caused by by the group under discussion
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#15
A thoughtful reply to a question not asked- and I should have said CNG vehicles, not electric ones
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2016
#29
While around 1200 criminals are responsible for over 400 deaths in Chicago alone every year.
jmg257
Aug 2016
#67
And they see no_hypocrisy in arguing from a position of ignorance........
pablo_marmol
Sep 2016
#108