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Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
20. I have a slightly different take on the issus you raise...
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 02:18 PM
Sep 2016

1) "Gun shows" are a means to carry out private sales if you are a non-FFL (few such "vendors," in my experience), but the venue is mentioned because gun prohibitionists are obsessd with looks, meetings, advertising, sport -- any physical representation of That Thing in general culture, and wish to bar gun shows de facto. Most of this country's prohibitions are suffused by the "dirtiness" of the act, the thing, the status which is proposed for prohibition. Witness the massive lines around gun shows post Sandy Hook. Gun-owners, like the cultures "attached" to any prohibition, are quite aware of this attempt at stigma, and respond aggressively and doggedly to ANY attempts to go after their culture (the same can be said of the "AWB&quot . Some of these responses are ill-advised and over-the-top, but one can say the same of others subject to culture-war prohibitions: LBTQ rights, drinkers, dope users, minorities, etc.

2) Concerning UBCs (which I support), the prospects of achieving these grow dimmer for the near future due to the prohibitionist track record of the small but elite and well-placed groups which call for UBCs. Gun owners know about this ruse as well. The controller/banners nevertheless remain politically tone-deaf to a fault in not changng their ways for the past 30 friggin' years.

The Devil's in the details. JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #1
Apparently all you have to do to is be a anti-gun preacher. oneshooter Sep 2016 #10
Yes, it's one of the exemptions. Straw Man Sep 2016 #11
Which version of "Universal Background Checks"? DonP Sep 2016 #2
OT: side question discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #3
Some of them already know the results they want before they draft the questions n/t DonP Sep 2016 #4
And, in addition... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #5
Create your own scary definition ... to support our prejudice. DonP Sep 2016 #6
The survey places I've worked for and been involved with... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #8
Add that registration will be a part of it (so called UBC) and see how it polls. beevul Sep 2016 #7
Correction. Straw Man Sep 2016 #9
how is it a myth? Mosby Sep 2016 #12
rhetorical shorthands are buzzwords are propaganda gejohnston Sep 2016 #13
"Weapons of war", "weapons meant for war", "weapons meant for the battlefield". beevul Sep 2016 #14
whats "assault-style weapons" Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #16
They have no clue what a "weapon of war" is.. virginia mountainman Sep 2016 #17
not really Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #15
Here's how. Straw Man Sep 2016 #18
so what? I couldn't care less about the way gun shows are percieved Mosby Sep 2016 #21
What evidence is there, that private sales are a problem in need of a solution? beevul Sep 2016 #24
you don't support background checks on principle? Mosby Sep 2016 #25
I support private property rights on principle, so I'll ask you again... beevul Sep 2016 #27
can't answer the question? Mosby Sep 2016 #28
I asked you first. beevul Sep 2016 #29
"who do you support?" beergood Sep 2016 #34
Would that support change if they tell you registration is included? N/T beevul Sep 2016 #35
i live in CA beergood Sep 2016 #36
Obviously. Straw Man Sep 2016 #30
"the "gun show loophole" language is rhetorical shorthand or private party to party gun sales." pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #19
I think gun shows should be banned in the US Mosby Sep 2016 #22
Actually, they aren't brave gejohnston Sep 2016 #23
Great suggestion mainstreetonce Sep 2016 #26
If only social policy was based on 'feelings' rather than *facts*?! pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #39
Why? Straw Man Sep 2016 #31
"I 'think' gun shows should be banned in the US." pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #32
less guns, less death. Mosby Sep 2016 #37
"less guns, less death." Unproven according to at least 3 liberal criminologists. pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #38
".......which is why I avoid it." pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #40
get a grip. Mosby Sep 2016 #41
I have a slightly different take on the issus you raise... Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #20
My nomination for Thread Winner. pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #33
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