Gun Control & RKBA

beergood first said: regarding restrictive swiss gun policy: you call that restrictive? California has more restrictive laws. and our legislators are trying to pass more.

Beergood defends his comparison of california with switzerland: " {swiss} right to private gun ownership is not guaranteed by law " Ca constitution does not guarantee its citizens the right to keep and bear arms, the only reason they can't deny the right is because we are still part of the US.

In other words californians have a right by law, albeit via the corrupt scalia heller amendment regarding 2ndA, to keep & bear arms, where the swiss do not.

beergood: "private {swiss} possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is permitted under licence"
Ca was the first state to ban assault weapons in 1989. that law is still in effect and was just made stricter on july 1st 2016.

OK, the swiss AW law is stricter than california's, it's 1 - 1.

n Switzerland, civilians are not allowed to possess automatic firearms, some automatic firearms converted into semi-automatic firearms, incendiary or armour-piercing ammunition, and 'expansive projectiles for handguns

Own any armor piercing ammo, or expansive bullets beergood? know anybody who does?

beergood: as of july 1st 2016 all residents of Ca must pass a background check to purchase ammo, we can not purchase ammo online, we must pay 50 dollars for the background check, and we are limited on the amount of ammo we can purchase in a year.

The swiss rules appear to be stricter for ammo, and home guard members need keep their assault rifle ammo at the armory, not with the assault rifle they keep at their home.
... others appear to be pushes pretty much, so I don't see how california's laws are 'more restrictive', as you contend.

In order to purchase ammunition the {swiss} buyer must follow the same legal rules that apply to buying guns. The buyer can only buy munition for guns that he/she legally owns and must provide the following to seller
.. valid official identification or passport (and must be older than 18 and who are not psychiatrically disqualified nor identified as posing security problems..
residence address
criminal record copy not older than 3 months
weapon acquisition permit not older than 2 years, or a weapon carrying permit not older than 5 years

For each transfer of a{Swiss} weapon or an essential weapon component without weapons acquisition permit, a written contract must be concluded. Each Party shall keep them at least ten years. The contract must include the following information
Family name, first name, birth date, residence address and signature of the person who sells the weapon or essential weapon component
Family name, first name, birth date, residence address and signature of the person who purchases the weapon or an essential weapon component
Kind of weapon, manufacturer or producer, label, caliber, weapon number, and date and place of transfer;
Type and number of official identification of the person who acquires the weapon or the essential weapon component
and an indication of the processing of personal data in connection with the contract in accordance with the privacy policy of the Federation or the cantons, if firearms are transmitted.
This information must be sent within 30 days to the cantonal weapon registration bureau, where the weapon holders are registered

You a registered gun owner in california, beergood?

To carry a {Swiss} loaded firearm in public or outdoors (and for an individual who is a member of the militia carrying a firearm other than his Army-issue personal weapons off-duty), a person must have a gun carrying permit, which in most cases is issued only to private citizens working in occupations such as security

Guns may be transported in public as long as an appropriate justification is present. This means to transport a gun in public, the following requirements apply:
The ammunition must be separated from the gun, no ammunition in a magazine.
The transport needs to be as direct as possible and needs a valid purpose:
For courses or exercises hosted by marksmanship, hunting or military organisations,
To an army warehouse and back,
To show the gun to a friend or a possible buyer
To and from a holder of a valid arms trade permit,
To and from a specific event, e.g. gun shows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland