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In reply to the discussion: Can you be a Progressive Democrat and still the support the Second Amendment? [View all]discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,579 posts)163. Re: "...there is no regulation to keep them out of the hands of the mentally unstable."
Yes there is.
https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics/about-nics
"The federally prohibiting criteria are as follows:
A person who has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year or any state offense classified by the state as a misdemeanor and is punishable by a term of imprisonment of more than two years.
Persons who are fugitives of justicefor example, the subject of an active felony or misdemeanor warrant.
An unlawful user and/or an addict of any controlled substance; for example, a person convicted for the use or possession of a controlled substance within the past year; or a person with multiple arrests for the use or possession of a controlled substance within the past five years with the most recent arrest occurring within the past year; or a person found through a drug test to use a controlled substance unlawfully, provided the test was administered within the past year.
A person adjudicated mental defective or involuntarily committed to a mental institution or incompetent to handle own affairs, including dispositions to criminal charges of found not guilty by reason of insanity or found incompetent to stand trial.
A person who, being an alien, is illegally or unlawfully in the United States.
A person who, being an alien except as provided in subsection (y) (2), has been admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa.
A person dishonorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces.
A person who has renounced his/her United States citizenship.
The subject of a protective order issued after a hearing in which the respondent had notice that restrains them from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such partner. This does not include ex parte orders.
A person convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime which includes the use or attempted use of physical force or threatened use of a deadly weapon and the defendant was the spouse, former spouse, parent, guardian of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabiting with or has cohabited in the past with the victim as a spouse, parent, guardian or similar situation to a spouse, parent or guardian of the victim.
A person who is under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year."
"The federally prohibiting criteria are as follows:
A person who has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year or any state offense classified by the state as a misdemeanor and is punishable by a term of imprisonment of more than two years.
Persons who are fugitives of justicefor example, the subject of an active felony or misdemeanor warrant.
An unlawful user and/or an addict of any controlled substance; for example, a person convicted for the use or possession of a controlled substance within the past year; or a person with multiple arrests for the use or possession of a controlled substance within the past five years with the most recent arrest occurring within the past year; or a person found through a drug test to use a controlled substance unlawfully, provided the test was administered within the past year.
A person adjudicated mental defective or involuntarily committed to a mental institution or incompetent to handle own affairs, including dispositions to criminal charges of found not guilty by reason of insanity or found incompetent to stand trial.
A person who, being an alien, is illegally or unlawfully in the United States.
A person who, being an alien except as provided in subsection (y) (2), has been admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa.
A person dishonorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces.
A person who has renounced his/her United States citizenship.
The subject of a protective order issued after a hearing in which the respondent had notice that restrains them from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such partner. This does not include ex parte orders.
A person convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime which includes the use or attempted use of physical force or threatened use of a deadly weapon and the defendant was the spouse, former spouse, parent, guardian of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabiting with or has cohabited in the past with the victim as a spouse, parent, guardian or similar situation to a spouse, parent or guardian of the victim.
A person who is under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year."
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Can you be a Progressive Democrat and still the support the Second Amendment? [View all]
Berlin Vet
Feb 2017
OP
Support the Second Amendment does not mean supporting Scalia's version of it.
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#8
You avoided his. When and where has private gun ownership been strictly tied to militia membership?
Marengo
Feb 2017
#126
Oh, a smoke screen is it? Let's try again: When and where has a Federal court ruled that militia...
Marengo
Feb 2017
#128
Was he a "hack" on Texas v Johnson, Maryland v King, Brown v Entertainment, Florida v Jardine...
Marengo
Feb 2017
#145
When and where has a Federal court ruled that militia membership is a prerequisite for the private..
Marengo
Feb 2017
#135
When or where has a Federal court ruled that Militia membership is a prerequisite for the private...
Marengo
Feb 2017
#139
In reality, what is understood is that your position stands utterly unsubstantiated as you...
Marengo
Feb 2017
#146
Your question has nothing to do with open carry, or concealed carry, or supposed self-defense.
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#147
God God, what a comedy. You're going hide behind THAT? Where's the evidence I asked for?
Marengo
Feb 2017
#149
Do you read the Amendment and decide for yourself what words really matter?
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#155
All that really matters is the SC's decision, and in Heller a majority agreed the 2nd protects...
Marengo
Feb 2017
#158
So using your link, we can infer that the original intent was that possession of firearms
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#31
SO, reading your second statement, we can infer that Amendments can be amended?
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#34
Why is it that somehow with you pro-restriction folks there is always a need for a "need"?
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2017
#73
A nice response. And polite as well. Something that is occasionally lacking in this venue.
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#75
As to the points you raise and a thanks again for the polite exchange
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2017
#86
And yet the gun lobby is rapidly pushing to allow gun owners to carry everywhere.
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#108
I think it's rather obvious what my preferred list of restrictions would cover
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2017
#109
Free white women, as a group, were universally prohibited from posessing firearms?
Marengo
Feb 2017
#207
Where was militia service a prerequisite for the private ownership of firearms by free citizens?
Marengo
Feb 2017
#216
Like Scalia, you ignore what you cannot explain in the individual vs group argument.
guillaumeb
Feb 2017
#43
You have always been a good debater, even if I don't agree with your premise...
tortoise1956
Feb 2017
#120
In Plymouth, well before the Second Amendment, it appears that free blacks could own guns
HoneyBadger
Feb 2017
#180
As your "scholarship" is so superior, please provide an example of a Federal court ruling...
Marengo
Feb 2017
#143
When and where has a Federal court ruled that militia membership is a prerequisite for the private..
Marengo
Feb 2017
#141
Re. mental health issues, "progressives" reward lip service, ignore *complete* malfeasance.
pablo_marmol
Feb 2017
#16
Sorry, Berlin Vet, for my not-so-clear attempt regarding "mental health issues"
democrank
Feb 2017
#22
Precrime is a regressive fantasy- all of us have to trust *everyone* we interact with
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2017
#239
The very idea of "earning" or "qualifying for" trust is anti-rights n/t
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2017
#240
As GE has mentioned, UBCs can only aspire to create very slight improvement.
pablo_marmol
Feb 2017
#18
No, if you support the NRA interpretation of the 2nd amendment you're a RW nutjob
SecularMotion
Feb 2017
#38
"There is not one Progressive or Liberal organization that supports weakening gun regulations."
wincest
Feb 2017
#59
Do they know you're using the name of their organization to pimp gun rights on DU?
SecularMotion
Feb 2017
#111
Are you attempting to silence that poster with a threat? Sure appears that way to me.
Marengo
Feb 2017
#142
yes, especially if you consider that the Bill of Rights protects civil liberties.
aikoaiko
Feb 2017
#124
Yeah, and I'm as progressive as it comes but I'm like Scalia on this, a strict constructionist...
brush
Feb 2017
#162
Re: "...there is no regulation to keep them out of the hands of the mentally unstable."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2017
#163
How do the mass killers get them then, all thru the gun show loophole? We both know that's not true.
brush
Feb 2017
#164