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AtheistCrusader

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35. You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:08 PM
Mar 2017
"Except the ar15 can be back fitted to become full automatic"


SOME civilian AR-15's can be fitted so, made prior to 1986. SOME. With complete replacement of available parts, with M-16 parts which you cannot legally purchase or possess without NFA registration and a 200$ tax stamp, and only if the parts were made before 1986.

That means making an auto-sear, bolt, carrier, and most of the trigger group. That's almost half of the gun, from a production standpoint. So yes, if someone MAKES a fully automatic weapon, they have a fully automatic weapon. Thanks for that brilliant addition to the conversation.

"with either a common tool (ie file), or a conversion kit."


Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. You cannot add metal components that are missing, with a file. If you want to manufacture a new part out of new metal with a file, that's possible, but the gun might well detonate in your hand due to poor workmanship/materials and bad timing on the cycle of the action.

'Conversion Kits' are not readily available, and simple possession of the kit without even installing it in a gun is a 10 year felony, in federal prison, do not pass go do not collect 200$.

"Doesn't matter if it's illegal, just that they can be converted to full auto, which is inter alia another criterion for defining an assault rifle. "

Only in weapons made after 1986, per the law, and BATFE. (Such weapons would be illegal)

"Are you saying that 10's of millions of AR15s are owned by americans?"


No, there are about 9 million AR-15's in circulation. There are tens of millions of center-fire rifles in circulation of the precise feature set/specifications in operation. AK-47 clones, AR-10's, well the entire AR platform really, Mini-14's, mini 30's, SCAR's, FN-FAL, yadda yadda etc.

"I challenge on this basis that 10's of millions of americans own an ar15"


Challenge rejected on the basis no one claimed that except you.

"Still about 90% of national rifle stock appears conventional rifles not assault rifles."

Lever-action center fire rifles are #1, semi-autos like the AR are #2, so not even close to 90%. You are WAAAAY off.
Where do these victims find such incompetent lawyers?!?!?! ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #1
I think that your new friends Dunning and Kruger might be their lawyers n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #2
ar15 white man's toy jimmy the one Mar 2017 #3
How often are AR15s converted to full auto? How many illegally converted AR15s have been seized... Marengo Mar 2017 #4
Probably a few but you'd have ask in France or Australia discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #5
"can" and "can easily" are two very different things. ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #6
Anyone who can convert an AR to full auto... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #7
Exactly. But those who get their gun knowledge from Hollywood ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #8
if anyone can do it wincest Mar 2017 #15
I've no doubt whatsoever that you actually believe what you wrote there. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #9
iconic amnesia jimmy the one Mar 2017 #12
You're are correct, I *have* seen this bullshit before. Thanks for the link to previous broadcasting friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #18
That is not what I claimed. TupperHappy Mar 2017 #10
ar & ak conversions which I do not condone or endorse in any way jimmy the one Mar 2017 #11
It is illegal to convert any semi auto firearm into full auto. The law is there. yagotme Mar 2017 #13
Is it "illegaler"? Beats me. Paladin Mar 2017 #14
Sorry. yagotme Mar 2017 #17
I'm not sure about "illegaler" but it might get you double secret probation. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #53
Used to be Correctional Officer. yagotme Apr 2017 #54
Correction. Straw Man Mar 2017 #29
no cigar jimmy the one Apr 2017 #38
I don't smoke cigars. Straw Man Apr 2017 #39
you make my case re AR15 jimmy the one Apr 2017 #42
Wrong again, on several counts. Straw Man Apr 2017 #46
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #47
Amazed this is still being debated, but let me interject something. TupperHappy Apr 2017 #48
Bravo for the hide inspiring response discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #49
And I thought my response was pretty mild ... Straw Man Apr 2017 #50
neither did I discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #51
"ar15 white man's toy" wincest Mar 2017 #16
proves nothing jimmy the one Mar 2017 #19
"proves nothing" yagotme Mar 2017 #21
gun ownership demographics melm00se Apr 2017 #40
Insufficient data. yagotme Apr 2017 #41
Goodness Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #20
to agree, or disagree, with oxymoronic hyperbole jimmy the one Mar 2017 #25
If there weren't a correction, it wouldn't be you discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #26
As I suspected you had nothing to back up your assertion. Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #32
A 500 dollar rifle makes you rich....LOL....now that's RICH. ileus Mar 2017 #23
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #35
do not employ these illegal conversion kits jimmy the one Apr 2017 #43
So, you know such a hypothetical kit would be instant felony to possess and they aren't readily avai AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #44
file your taxes soon, but don't file your AR jimmy the one Apr 2017 #45
You're right of course about the lawyers. pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #22
The whole "negligent entrustment" idea... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #24
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welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2017 #28
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You're welcome gopiscrap Mar 2017 #31
I didn't see the post you responded to, its been removed. TupperHappy Mar 2017 #33
of course it was marketed to civilians. It's a civilian rifle. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #34
is your avatar wincest Mar 2017 #36
Good catch, yes it is. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #37
It will cost the families dearly but the precedence benefit will prove useful... Baconator Apr 2017 #52
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