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In reply to the discussion: Sandy Hook families take gun case to state Supreme Court [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)35. You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
"Except the ar15 can be back fitted to become full automatic"
SOME civilian AR-15's can be fitted so, made prior to 1986. SOME. With complete replacement of available parts, with M-16 parts which you cannot legally purchase or possess without NFA registration and a 200$ tax stamp, and only if the parts were made before 1986.
That means making an auto-sear, bolt, carrier, and most of the trigger group. That's almost half of the gun, from a production standpoint. So yes, if someone MAKES a fully automatic weapon, they have a fully automatic weapon. Thanks for that brilliant addition to the conversation.
"with either a common tool (ie file), or a conversion kit."
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. You cannot add metal components that are missing, with a file. If you want to manufacture a new part out of new metal with a file, that's possible, but the gun might well detonate in your hand due to poor workmanship/materials and bad timing on the cycle of the action.
'Conversion Kits' are not readily available, and simple possession of the kit without even installing it in a gun is a 10 year felony, in federal prison, do not pass go do not collect 200$.
"Doesn't matter if it's illegal, just that they can be converted to full auto, which is inter alia another criterion for defining an assault rifle. "
Only in weapons made after 1986, per the law, and BATFE. (Such weapons would be illegal)
"Are you saying that 10's of millions of AR15s are owned by americans?"
No, there are about 9 million AR-15's in circulation. There are tens of millions of center-fire rifles in circulation of the precise feature set/specifications in operation. AK-47 clones, AR-10's, well the entire AR platform really, Mini-14's, mini 30's, SCAR's, FN-FAL, yadda yadda etc.
"I challenge on this basis that 10's of millions of americans own an ar15"
Challenge rejected on the basis no one claimed that except you.
"Still about 90% of national rifle stock appears conventional rifles not assault rifles."
Lever-action center fire rifles are #1, semi-autos like the AR are #2, so not even close to 90%. You are WAAAAY off.
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I think that your new friends Dunning and Kruger might be their lawyers n/t
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Mar 2017
#2
How often are AR15s converted to full auto? How many illegally converted AR15s have been seized...
Marengo
Mar 2017
#4
I've no doubt whatsoever that you actually believe what you wrote there.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2017
#9
You're are correct, I *have* seen this bullshit before. Thanks for the link to previous broadcasting
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2017
#18
It is illegal to convert any semi auto firearm into full auto. The law is there.
yagotme
Mar 2017
#13
I'm not sure about "illegaler" but it might get you double secret probation.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Apr 2017
#53
So, you know such a hypothetical kit would be instant felony to possess and they aren't readily avai
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2017
#44
It will cost the families dearly but the precedence benefit will prove useful...
Baconator
Apr 2017
#52